NFL Draft: Sizing up the Giants’ possibilities in Round One

John Fennelly, Lead Writer

Having the 12th overall selection in the NFL Draft doesn’t give you a lot of room to move. Trading up isn’t a realistic option and trading back prevents you from getting a top talent.

In this draft, the Giants will be staring at several top talents at No. 12. Since the pool is so deep this year, they’ll likely take the best player available and search to augment needs after that.

SNYGiants insider Ralph Vacchiano of the Daily News lists his 12 possibilities for the Giants at No. 12.

He’s dead on that any one of the below players will be available when the Giants’ select:

Mike Evans, Texas A&M

Mike Evans, Texas A&M

  • WR Mike Evans, Texas A&M
  • OT Taylor Lewan, Michigan
  • LB CJ Mosley, Alabama
  • TE Eric Ebron, North Carolina
  • OT Jake Matthews, Texas A&M
  • OL Zack Martin, Notre Dame
  • DT Timmy Jernigan, Florida State
  • WR Odell Beckham, Jr, LSU
  • S Hasean Clinton-Dix, Alabama
  • OLB/DE Anthony Barr, UCLA
  • DT Aaron Donald, Pittsburgh
  • CB Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma State

Any and all of these players would make the Giants a better team. My personal preference would be an offensive lineman. Matthews and Lewan are grading out the same. Based on the Giants’ current tackle situation, I’d take either one of them first. Martin is almost a carbon copy of last year’s top pick, Justin Pugh. I’d be satisfied with him as well.

Evans and Ebron would give the Giants the big receiver they currently lack. I don’t see Beckham as pick that would satisfy the current initiative to retool the offense. Too similar to Cruz, Manningham and Jernigan in size and style.

Of the defensive players, Donald is my top pick. He is multi-talented lineman that will immediately upgrade the front seven. Gilbert is a great cover guy, and I always say that you can’t have enough DBs, but the Giants will test that theory if they take him.

Barr is an interesting pick, but he’d have to line up at DE and that means less snaps for JPP, Kiwi, Damonster or Evans. Not sure the Giants would sign up for that.

HCD is one of my favorite players in this draft. The Giants are not as deep at safety as one may think, so taking him fills not only an immediate need, but one down the road as well.

Mosley doesn’t fit the Giants defensive scheme at all. They currently employ a two-LB alignment on the majority of the snaps, so spending a top-12 draft pick on a part-time player makes no sense to me. Unless, he can play like a DB, which many say he can.




32 comments
Michael D. Van Heest
Michael D. Van Heest

I am still under the impression that Reese may "shock the world" and trade Nassab and our 12 for a higher pick. Now that Freeman is in house, we could be in line for Matthews with this trade. I know this is not typical Giants thinking, but this was not a typical Giant's offseason either. With Matthews and Pugh on the ends we would be set for many many years to come. To me, this is worth Nassab as we will not be using him anyway and I have heard people say he may be as good or better than any or most of the QBs coming out this year. What do you all think?

thatfunk
thatfunk

If we stay at 12 I hope the pick is Jake Matthews, Taylor Lewan or Mike Evans.


If those three are unavailable, entertain trade offers and move down a few spots for Martin or the monster Moses from UVA.  


If we trade down into the 20's, I hope the pick is Jordan Matthews! 



I don't want Ebron. He's a great talent, but can't justify using a top 12 pick on a player whose not going to have an immediate impact from day 1. I can't help but think he's Kellen Winslow jr 2.0. Yes a solid player, but not what I'm expecting with the #12 pick. 




nytony
nytony

It is a really deep draft, I can see Evans and Ebron still on the board when we get to #12 would be thrilled with either one remember there are a lot of teams that need help in the trenches and there will be at least 1 to 2 quarterbacks taken in the top ten. Be optimistic, whoever we get at 12 will be a beast and will help Eli and the offense right away. Defense may come in second and / or third rounds, and help in the trenches in the later rounds. Trophy#5 in route!!!

dannym28
dannym28

Evans and Niklas or ASJ in round two, a guy can dream. 

Matthew Cohen
Matthew Cohen

Barr is an interesting pick, but he’d have to line up at DE and that means less snaps for JPP, Kiwi, Damonster or Evans. Not sure the Giants would sign up for that.

Kiwi is done and who knows what Moore is.  It's not like he's a proven end - he could be a washout.  JPP and Ayers can move inside on passing downs so it's not really an issue.

Jeff Comerford
Jeff Comerford

Don't like Lewan - but would be surprised if he was available.  Would love Evans or Matthews - but both will be gone as well.


Donald might be there, Ebron will be gone at 12.  I would prefer to drop back and pick up a 2nd or 3rd round pick  (3rd round pick would be for them to drop to about 16 or so, 2nd round pick would be to drop to early to mid 20's)

mcfly
mcfly

If Lewan or Donald are not there I really hope we trade down. Evans will most likely be gone as well.

I wouldn't be mad if we stayed and took Jernigan, but again would rather go down.

I want no part of Martin or Ebron. Not bad players, but the value isn't there for the pick.

If we trade down we can pick up another pick (most likely a 4, maybe a 3 if we go way down). I would be happy taking Dee Ford bottom of the first or even Shazier (who reminds me of Boley). Maybe even reach and take a center.

Peter Sinapi
Peter Sinapi

I would have a hard time finding a complaint if Lewan, Donald, Evans or Ebron were picked. All those other players I would prefer to trade back. Can't pass on Evans. He is still my top choice:

1) Evans

2) Lewan

3) Ebron

4) Donald

thehat
thehat

It would be tough to pass on a guy like Evans or Ebron, but I'll never argue with taking someone for either side of the line in the first round.  Many things have changed in football over the years, but the game is still controlled in the trenches. If Eli gets time/the line creates some openings, there's enough talent at WR/RB to make plays.....and with the additions in the secondary, a little extra push from the D-Line is going to make for many long days for opposing QBs.

bleedblue4
bleedblue4

Do not understand your love affair with Donald not at 12 he would not come close to making an immediate impact on this club. If they're looking to go DT trade bake grab picks. I would love one of the offensive lineman myself but James from Tenn could be had in the second round. Same could be said for S and CB. Only way you draft a LB is if Mack falls. Let's be honest this offense needs to improve, if they are there which I doubt Ebron or Evans have to be the pick.


Ebron is far better then any other TE you have on this team and in the draft. And let's be honest Cruz was lost without Nicks he was no where near the receiver he is when he had Nicks playing. I stated this before and will again this receiving core may be one of the worst in the league. JJ had 3 weeks last year otherwise he was a ghost and those 3 weeks came against teams that didn't care. Maningham has been irrelevant since leaving the Giants and was nothing more then a 4th wide receiver then. Randle god only knows what your getting and every year Cruz's drops have increased. And who is the T.E on this team?


I think it's simple what they need to do with the 12th pick.

hashburry
hashburry

Not to be a total nitpicker, but if you list 12 players as possible draftees for a team picking 12th, yeah, he's gonna be dead on that one of them will be available.  Nice insight.

cole3244
cole3244

i think safety is becoming as important a position as cb with the significance of the passing game, as long as the jints take the bpa i will have no objection and at twelve a talented player will definitely be there.


i still like the idea of trading down if we can collect enough chips to help rebuild this fractured team, sf might be one possible trade partner since they won't be able to keep all eleven picks and need so little to complete their team.

Corey Landwehr
Corey Landwehr

I think our giants can take a very good player at no. 12. me personally cant have enough people to protect your qb,but the more I see of  eavans and ebron ,id like one of them ebron ,from what they say could be your te for many years,evans can go up and grab the ball. but if we are methodical we will tak an offensive lineman ,Mathews lewan ,martins fotay is that he can play all the line spots. go giants!!

fast_eddie
fast_eddie

John...I think agree with you on just about everything you said after Vacchiano's list. My favorites have not changed one bit in weeks...It's Lewan, Donald, Evans and Ebron in that order. If they are all gone by the time the Giants pick, I'm going with Zack Martin. We will get a very good player at number 12, maybe even a guy who could step in almost immediately...

Peace

mcfly
mcfly

Nassib's value is basically what we got him for last year, a 4th round pick.

fast_eddie
fast_eddie

@dannym28  


Well, if your dream is Niklas in round two, that would be a possibility for sure. As far as Evans in round 2, there is no shot that happens. I would say Evans is most likely going somewhere between 8th and 12th in round one which means we could have a shot at him there if they go skill position player...we'll see.

spider43
spider43

@mcfly  ....  I think obtaining someone's 1st and 2nd round pick for #12 is very possible, provided there is a team willing to trade up. But I just don't see many teams signalling any willingness to do that.

fast_eddie
fast_eddie

@Peter Sinapi  


Your top 4 are the same as mine, just in a different order. Mine goes Lewan, Donald, Evans, Ebron. Any of the four would be a good choice for our pick - as you said, no complaints.

John Fennelly
John Fennelly

@bleedblue4  I hold a lot of stock in Mike Mayock's evaluations. I speak with him every year before the draft and he is usually right on the money.


This year, he likes Donald a lot, so I dug a little and liked what I saw about him. The Giants like him, too. Not sure how much, but his ability to push towards the pocket is something they are looking for. 


As for TE they still love ARob and are keeping an eye on the Jermichael Finley situation. I hear they are not as high on Ebron because of his poor blocking skills.

John Fennelly
John Fennelly

@hashburry  No..the poInt being made is that any one of them could reach No. 12....

fast_eddie
fast_eddie

Right...and if 2 or 3 QBs get taken in the first 11 picks it will be a virtual certainty that the Giants get one of those 12 players. The question is...which one?

spider43
spider43

@mcfly  ... And I doubt Nassib is even worth that much, considering he looked awful in the preseason, and didn't even suit up on the roster during the regular season.

Peter Sinapi
Peter Sinapi

The caliber of player from 10-25 is probably very similar.

Peter Sinapi
Peter Sinapi

I take the playmaker over the tackle. And Evans seems to be the safer pick over a guy who might go to jail.

Peter Sinapi
Peter Sinapi

1 DT in the 1st round in over 30 years taken by the giants. Almost as unlikely as a LB.

bleedblue4
bleedblue4

@John Fennelly @bleedblue4 Ok but with all the holes that this team needs filled unless he is god himself I can't go DT at 12. As for ARob as of this moment the guy couldn't stay healthy if you paid him to ( Giants know this because they try to pay him too ). Finley would be ok, I'd be fine with Keller as well if he is healthy.


I don't blame you for liking Donald, what I am saying is I could not do it with the 12th pick in the draft. I ask can't do it with receiving core as well. So let's say they end up with Finley, I move back and draft Cooks or Benjamin, James from Ten in the 2nd as well as a defensive player ( pick from trade ).


I would like your honest opinion on this receiving core.

fast_eddie
fast_eddie

@John Fennelly  


OK, well that's a little different. The only guy I definitely do not see falling to #12 is Jake Matthews. He will be gone by the 8th pick I'm sure. As far as the rest of them, I guess there is a "chance" that they could fall to 12, but most of them are not likely to. Hey, we only need one real impact player and we're good in round 1.

bleedblue4
bleedblue4

@fast_eddie Your literally insane if you think more then 1 QB will be drafted on the first 20 picks. 2 at best but any team can get a QB in the 2nd round the will grade out close to any one of the 3 predicted to go in the first. Fully expect to see Bridgewater end up in the same spot Geno Smith did last year.

spider43
spider43

@Peter Sinapi  .... That much is true, but that shouldn't discount the fact that Donald is very talented and certainly NOT a reach at #12. IF everyone the Giants rate highly on their draft board are gone before #12 and Donald is still there, I think it would be stupid of them to ignore him. I would certainly like Donald at #12 over Martin, who would clearly be a reach at #12.

John Fennelly
John Fennelly

@bleedblue4 @John Fennelly  Certainly could use a big target in the receiving ranks. Evans would be perfect. Cruz is a top player, but Randle is inconsistent and Jernigan still has much to prove. Bringing back Mario was a nice gesture, but his health worries me.

fast_eddie
fast_eddie

@bleedblue4


Thank you for calling me insane for saying the exact same thing that a dozen different top mock drafts have said already. SMH.  Secondly, I said "if" ...not that it will definitely happen as far as 2 or 3 QBs get taken in the top 20 picks. Got it? Read it again until it sinks in...