Giants possibly considering the longterm in OC search

The Giants may be thinking long term in their search for a new offensive coordinator. It’s a big move for the club, who haven’t had to conduct a search since Tom Coughlin took the reins in 2004.

From Dave Hutchinson of the Star Ledger:

Perhaps the Giants are looking for more than just an offensive coordinator. Maybe they’re also looking for a potential head coach-in-waiting or at least a strong candidate.

In addition to Sullivan, the Giants’ short list includes Dowell Loggains from Tennessee, Ben McAdoo from Green Bay and Karl Dorrell from Houston and may expand even more, Mara said. All are young and considered rising stars.

Of course, defensive coordinator Perry Fewell would be a deserving candidate on the other side of the ball.

Teams rarely employ a coach-in-waiting approach these days but if any team can pull it off it would be the “old school” Giants, a rock-solid organization with outstanding ownership.

John Fennelly, Lead Writer

Get it all over at once, to coin a phrase from the medical procedure dictionary. Since Tom will be staying with no apparent end date in sight, the Giants may as well groom some candidates. I agree with Dave they normally don’t do this in Pro Football, but the Giants aren’t your normal NFL team. I can see them hiring a guy with greater expectations in mind.




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Gary Fletcher
Gary Fletcher

Phil Jackson had something in mind in making Early his first pick. Why do you second guess him. Don't treat Phil like he has no brain. He is aware of the situation more that you are.

Daniel Nguyen
Daniel Nguyen

He's the only guy besides Melo who we're not trading, right?

barnaby87
barnaby87

Does anyone know the rules on an S&T related to the apron?  Obviously we need to get under the apron to acquire a player via S&T, but could we do it in the same trade?  Meaning, could we swing a three way trade clearing cap via the sixers while sending players and whatever we need to to Detroit in order to acquire Monroe?

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

"When a deal like this takes a long time, there are going to be more ants circling the picnic," one front-office source told Sporting News. "This is not likely to be a one-to-one trade." Sporting News -

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

Multiple sources told Sporting News this week that teams are flocking to potential deals that would send Love to Chicago, Cleveland, Golden State or elsewhere, hoping to facilitate a trade by adding players, cap space or draft picks. Sporting News -

barnaby87
barnaby87

"There are "league-wide whispers" that a third team may become involved in a potential Kevin Love trade involving the Cavaliers and Wolves, according to Sam Amico of Fox Sports."

Phil needs to get involved and get Tristan Thompson into a knicks uni

zebeto
zebeto

oh geez ...looks like the morning is starting out with the ..we want Kobe crowd ..... 48 mil/2 yr spot up jump shooter, never got so much love !

Gary Fletcher
Gary Fletcher

@Daniel Nguyen , that could be true. Even the supposedly untradeable Hardaway Jr was listed as 1 of 3 to possibly be traded for Kevin Love. It didn't work out.


Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@barnaby87 

You would need to send out about $35 million salary in order to pay Monroe his $15 million and get under the apron.

barnaby87
barnaby87

@KnickName We don't need a lineup filled with 5 stars man.  We need pieces. Look at Boris Diaw; he's a piece to a championship, not a star. 

zebeto
zebeto

@KnickName ...I would go after Westbrook..........if OKC fizzle out this year

Chris
Chris

@KnickName We need pieces that fit, not names. Stat does not fit the triangle, Bargs does, Smith fits the triangle better then Tyler. It is about getting the right players, not just name players . watch

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@barnaby87 

Minnesota has stated that they want to move Kevin Martin as part of any deal for Love. Look for Philly to jump into the deal with their ample cap space. They do like Dion Waiters. That would facilitate the financial requirements to make the deal work under the cap.

barnaby87
barnaby87

@Knicks_Fanatic Yeah, I don't realistically see it happening, but you never know I guess.  We'd probably have to sacrifice THJ, Shump, JR, and picks in addition to salary just to make it work.

barnaby87
barnaby87

@Knicks_Fanatic @barnaby87 Ah.  It's a shame K-Mart's contract has another three years on it.  I'd take him in a knicks uni if his contract was up in 2016.

zebeto
zebeto

@BiggieTKB @zebeto  ..in this point of his carer kobe is gonna be a spot up shooter ////.......and knicks will basicly have 2 max contracts in the SF position ....fantastic !
... hope Aldrich and Dalembert evolve significantly for the long haul !

zebeto
zebeto

@Chris @zebeto @KnickName  melo works in the post more than durant ......might end up being a better pairing than westbrook/durant .


and i agree..Westbrook def will relish the ny type vibe , extrovert and all

Chris
Chris

@zebeto Totally wrong. I guess ignorance is bliss on this blog. Kobe would run the triangle. Note even Hardaway had space to get to the hoop. Kobe would live there with Melo playing along side. Time to think outside the box

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

@zebeto @BiggieTKB  You think Kobe plays the 3?  Good night.


Ya think Dalembert is going to evolve?  sayonara

Chris
Chris

@zebeto That is also true. Either one would work with Melo. Durrant would be the stretch 4 or 2, Westbrook would be 1 or elbow 2. Both love Fish

zebeto
zebeto

@Chris @zebeto  i like kobe alot man ...def top 5 of all time ........ but im simply against commiting to 48 mil for two yrs to someone who ruptered his achilles trying to dribble away from a defender. and who hasnt played in 1,5 yrs...............the same who critisize Rose as being done (yet hes much younger) , seem to want Kobe at 36 in the knicks , i dont get it . 


but whatever ,,,in Phil i trust ...whatever happens ,happens and i\ll support.

zebeto
zebeto

@MeloStat301 no ,on the dalembert evolution .........if melo and kobe are on the same team ........we\ll be stuck with dalembert and aldrich for atleast 2 yrs .

barnaby87
barnaby87

@Mel Brown @barnaby87 Chandler Parsons was making under1 mil man; now he 15 mil a year.  I'd take Monroe over Parsons in a heartbeat.

zebeto
zebeto

@Chris @zebeto ....i would go for Westbrook all day ........perfect high energy guy that will literally give Melo a 1-2 quarter rest everygame if needed, (scoring wise)...tenacious , loud , crazy ...................perfect for NY !

anthony G. Decesare
anthony G. Decesare

I think durant would either stay in okc or go home to wash/maryland to play for wizards.

zebeto
zebeto

@KnickName @Chris isnt melo and durant ,kinda redundant anyways on the same team ??...............maybe only if Melo turns into a fulltime PF .

Chris
Chris

@zebeto @Chris No one works like Kobe, not close, he wants more rings to surpass MJ, he will be ready

zebeto
zebeto

@BiggieTKB @MeloStat301 .....whatever dude .....Kobe crew attack all you want ! .......no way i want a 36 yr old Nba great who hasnt played in 1,5 yrs ........no !

zebeto
zebeto

@KnickName @Chris @zebeto  if Phil corraled Mj, and Kobes ego for the benefit of the team , i think Fish and Phil could do the same with westbrook .

zebeto
zebeto

@barnaby87 @zebeto @MeloStat301 ...lets say kobe and melo taking up 48 mil in CAP next year .......what kind of frontcourt players/upgrades are knicks gonna have ...... thats the main point ...dalembert/min contract types .


instead of going after a Westbrook , no ! .lets go after Kobe to be a "traingle mentor"  smfh !

barnaby87
barnaby87

@Mel Brown @barnaby87 100% I agree Parsons isn't worth 15.  I'm not saying Monroe is worth 15 either.  But considering market rate, that's what most teams (if they could) would pay him.

barnaby87
barnaby87

@zebeto Bargs (amongst others) comes off the books, the cap will be increased as well.  We could offer someone the full MLE.

zebeto
zebeto

@KnickName @zebeto @Chris ...erratic play is basicly MENTAL ... with experience and mentoring (phil,fish) im pretty confident that westbrook can "domesticated" .

zebeto
zebeto

@barnaby87 @zebeto Full MLE is good and all .....but not really the upgrade the knicks should/could get in the frontcourt for the future ...

..knicks should be looking for millsaps, lamarcus , monroes , gasol etc ..you cant compete to get those type of players with the full mle .

barnaby87
barnaby87

@Mel Brown @barnaby87 You think Dallas was the only team willing to offer Parsons 15?  Or Gordan Hayward even more?  Tons of teams would pay 15 mil for him. 

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@Mel Brown @barnaby87 

Greg Monroe is 24 years old, coming off his rookie contract. He has been injury free and is entering the prime of his career.  He is pretty much a double double guy for the next 5-7 years. He will get paid. It would take a $15 million offer, like Pasons, to make Detroit think about not matching. In a sign and trade, we would have to pay a heavy price to get him.


barnaby87
barnaby87

@Mel Brown Yeah, it's much harder to find a good center in this league than a small forward, lol