Giants cut ties with longtime assistants Pope and Ingram

With the hiring of Ben McAdoo as the team’s new offensive coordinator, the Giants cut ties with longtime tight ends coach Mike Pope (Garafolo, Rapoport).

“Both of these men are very good talent evaluators and, in their own way, are very good teachers,” Tom Coughlin said. “I decided to make a change in our staff that I believe will be productive going forward. These are very difficult decisions, but I felt they were in the best interests of the Giants moving forward.”

Pope was the only coach Tom Coughlin retained from the previous staff, and said, “He is the best tight ends coach in football” (Vacchiano).

Pope has been with the team for over 20 years, and has been the tight ends coach since 2000.

The Giants have also let RB coach Jerald Ingram go. He has been with the Giants for last ten seasons.

John Fennelly, Lead Writer

John Mara said the Giants were not going to “blow it up,” but these moves suggest he’s blowing up at least half of it. With McAdoo in the big chair on offense now, the Giants apparently are looking for assistants who are familiar with his style and strategy.

They don’t put assistants in the Hall of Fame, but Pope is as close to a great assistant as one might find. He is clearly the best  - or close to the best – tight ends coach in the NFL, and has been for the last 30 years.

Ingram was no slouch, either. First, he turned Tiki Barber into a HoF-caliber player and then presided over the championship Earth, Wind and Fire days.




12 comments
Michael Frias
Michael Frias

Giants make no moves, people complain that the Giants are too loyal.


Giants make moves, they are instantly questioned.


Gotta love the fickle fans that comment on this board.


Other team make lower tier coaching changes all the time.  You just don't read about it because you don't follow those teams as close.  It's the nature of the beast.

hashburry
hashburry

Can you overflow the importance of position coaches any more?

rico
rico

Maybe Pope was angry that he was not considered for the OC job and the Giants smelled trouble?


Sometimes in jobs, it's just time for you to go. 

Skookaloop
Skookaloop

More FORCED RETIREMENT....

More Window Dressing....

POPE is a TOP TE Coach....

........ this is just SMOKE & MIRRORs....

Why not FeWell ?????????????????????

SNYGiants
SNYGiants moderator

@hashburry Pope and Ingram were - and still are - excellent coaches. But the Giants are going in a different direction and TC wants coaches that fit the new system.

SNYGiants
SNYGiants moderator

@rico Pope is a TE coach. No way he was looking for an OC job 30 years into his career. Has never been a play caller 

SNYGiants
SNYGiants moderator

@Skookaloop Not quite sure why you feel every move the Giants make is not a good one. Fewell is here, for now, but he is on notice as well. Mara wanted offensive changes and he is getting that. 


I know you are not a Reese fan, but the seconds after the Giants let him go, his BlackBerry will explode with dozens - yes, dozens - of offers.

Skookaloop
Skookaloop

@SNYGiants @Skookaloop  

" ...EVERY Move...Please....

the Facts are,

REESE has had the KEY's to the NYG's for Year's....

GreatFull for the 2 SB's...

Should of had 1-2 MORE....

But,

Look where we are NOW !!!

REESE MISSed WAY, too much....

... this on "NOTICE" poop....

means ZERO !!!!....

ACCOUNTABILITY... that's all I'm asking for...




spider43
spider43

@SNYGiants @Peter Sinapi 


John, if Pope doesn't fit the new system, then by that logic, the Giants should be giving the O-Line coach his walking papers as well. This move of canning the TE coach makes little logical sense. If you are given crap talent for the TE position and they don't pan out, how is that the fault of Mike Pope? Look at all his previous TE successes. Now compare those players in talent to Myers, Pascoe, and the "JPP of TE's" Robinson. NO PERSON could be expected to ALWAYS make lemonade out of these lemons. Mike Pope did good things with what little talent he was given. But if a TE is not a good blocker, then how can you expect to transform that player into a good blocker after only one season with Mike Pope?  That's trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Jerry Reese never should have signed Myers if he didn't fit our "system".  And now that we have a new "system", you're saying that the "best TE coach in football" is incapable of coaching good/great TE's that focus more on pass receiving than blocking?


I was genuinely surprised the Giants hired McAdoo, but I'm very pleased with that decision. However this termination of Mike Pope was not a very smart move in my opinion. Unless they plan to hire the Packers current TE coach as well, this move doesn't make a lot of sense. If Jerry Reese would have just given Pope better TE talent to develop over the last 3 years, I think Mike Pope still has a job. I said two years ago Reese should draft Coby Fleener, he doesn't and now he stars with the Colts. I thought the drafting of either Eifert or Ertz would have been good for last year as well, and they had respectable rookie seasons for their respective teams... but Reese keeps passing by all this good TE talent over the years, and look what happens. When Reese keeps neglecting positions like LB, OL, and TE, eventually that all catches up to you, and Mike Pope paid the price for that negligence with his job. You can't perform miracles with just any old player from a scrap heap, sometimes you really need some talent to make things work. Our TE problems in 2013 had little to do with Mike Pope and more to do with Jerry Reese and the neglect of the OL and TE positions in the draft over the last few years.

JamesWS
JamesWS

@spider43 @SNYGiants @Peter Sinapi 


Mike Pope is good at developing blocking-first TEs.  That is why he did so well with Marty Bennett, Kevin Boss, Jake Ballard, Bear Pascoe, etc.  That is also why he clashed with Jeremy Shockey and failed with Brandon Myers.  Mike Pope is great at turning a slow-footed oaf into a useful TE.  He is not good at creating good receiving TEs.


This move had to be made, and makes sense with the McAdoo hire, since we are likely to look for a catch-first TE for next year.