Draft Talk: You can never have enough defenders

John Fennelly, Lead Writer

The website Walter Football has a running 2014 NFL Mock Draft that is not as conventional as some. From time to time I stop by to check out which players they are mocking to Big Blue:

Round One: DT Aaron Donald, Pitt - Would start from Day One and never look back. He is both a need and a BPA pick. Donald is a player that will upgrade the entire defense by both collapsing the pocket and stuffing the run. Does he fix the Giants’ “broken” offense? No, but he’ll help break everyone else’s.

Round Two: DE Scott Crichton, Oregon State - Don’t like it. At least at this point in time. He’s coming out a year early, has loads of potential and the Giants do need a pass rusher, but is he the answer? How long will we have to wait for him to play, is another question. We’ve heard this song before. There are too many pro-ready players in this draft to be dallying with projects this early on. That being said, the Giants may like him enough (he’s a strip-sack artist) to pull the trigger. This draft is too deep for them to do that, however.


Round Three: RB Davonta Freeman, Florida State - Like the pick, but again, he’s not an offensive lineman or a tight end, which are the two top need positions. Will he make the Giants better? I think he will, but I’d like him better in the next round.

Round Four: OT Antonio Richardson, Tennessee - How the mighty have fallen. Richardson should be a first round pick, but his inconsistent play has him dropping way down. “Tiny” is a value pick here, but will he be able to hit the ground running in the pros? If they take another lineman in the rounds before this, it wouldn’t be a problem taking the risk here.

Round Five: DT Kelcy Quarles, South Carolina - Quarles would be a steal here. He, not Jadaveon Clowney, led the Gamecocks in sacks last year. He has all the traits to become a solid pro inside and can also be shifted outside with those long arms. I don’t think he lasts until Round Five, however.

Analysis: Not taking a TE in a deep TE draft field worries me. Taking Crichton in Round Two is a reach IMO. As I always say, let someone make that mistake. Replace him with a TE or OL there, and I’ll sleep better.

The rest I like. Adding both Donald and Quarles to the D-line would be incredible and give the Giants a league-class defense. Richardson is a question mark, but if the light goes on, he could hit big. Freeman may actually be a better prospect than David Wilson, who the Giants uses a first-rounder on. Go figure.




26 comments
mcfly
mcfly

With our D beefed up, I think Donald would be a good pick. The strength of our defense when we win superbowls is the ability to put pressure on the qb. Right now if you look at our dline it might be our weakest unit (on defense). JPP has a hard time staying healthy. Kiwi is somewhat of a question mark considering he is getting older and his production is down. Two huge question marks from last years rookies. We are thin in the trenches. If lewan isn't the pick, Donald should be our guy.

Peter Sinapi
Peter Sinapi

The Giants literally do not have a TE on this roster with game experience. Eric Ebron has to be the pick unless they sign someone with experience before the draft. My preference is Evans, his talent is tough to pass on but with 4 capable WRs already I don't see them going wideout. Ebron will fill all of your BPA needs as well as a need position. Use rounds 2 and 3 on the OL and DL.

Skookaloop
Skookaloop

How to Fix a Broken OFFENSE:

A DEFENSIVE Free Agent SPENDING SPREE !!!

ILB J. Beason $6M

ILB J. McClain $2.5M

OLB S. Paysinger $1.4M

CB DRC $7M

CB Thurmond $3.5M

FS S. Brown $4M ***

S/KR Q. Demps $???M

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D-Spending--$24.4M + Demps

Defensive DRAFT Targets: DT & DE


OG G. Schwarts $4.2M

RB R. Jennings $2.5M

RB P.Hillis $1M

C/OG JD. Walton $2.5M

QB C.Painter $.8M

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O-Spending-- $11M 

.......................we need a STARTing C ---

fast_eddie
fast_eddie

Nothing to do with this thread, but I heard an interview with newly signed Rashad Jennings with Benigno & Roberts on WFAN this morning. I was VERY impressed the young man. He was well spoken and was very complimentary toward Tom Coughlin, Jerry Reese and the Giants organization in general. Hope he turns into a very productive RB for us. He sounds like a guy who is easy to root for...

Eric Carter
Eric Carter

John Fennelly,

I was wondering what your thoughts were on this?

If the giants do draft Taylor Lewan or another LT in the first round then move Will Beatty to RT Justin Pugh to RG with Geoff Schwartz at LG and J D Walton at Center could (provided he is healthy enough) Chris Snee be the back up C/G if Walton isnt healthy or doesnt perform could you see him being the starting center and being able to do a good job at it. I think Eli Manning would trust him.

What do you all think?

KS
KS

Round 1- Taylor Lewan, OT Michigan-  He might not be there but if he is he should be the pick.  This type of prospect would go top 7, maybe even top 5 in most drafts.  Put him at LT, switch Beatty to RT and shift Pugh inside.


2- Troy Niklas TE Notre Dame-  Great blocker that can also make plays downfield.  Big frame too for Eli's high balls.


3- Kelcy Quarles DT South Carolina


4- Travis Swanson C- Arkansas


5- Charles Sims RB- WVU

singlemalt
singlemalt

The more I think about it the more I do not see them taking Mike Evans for this offense.

Guys like Cruz, Randle JJ and  Mario to some degree seem to better suit WCO.

If that is the case: go defense - Ealy, Barr or CJ Mosely would be nice right here.

urda83
urda83

FIXING OUR 5 WEAKEST POSITIONS WITH THE DRAFT


NOTE - I would not draft a WR in rounds 1-5.  As of right now the Giants have Victor Cruz, Rueben Randle, Jernel Jernigan (to quote John Mara, "Why did it take us soo long to find out that this guy can play!?!?), Super Mario Manningham, and Trindon Holliday is also capable of playing the position.  I would sign a cheap free agent WR as the last free agent signing before the draft... How about adding Nate Burleson for depth??? 


DRAFT


ROUND 1 - North Carolina TE Eric Ebron - Eric Ebron and our JPP of Tight End's Adrien Robinson could be our dynamic duo at the position and put everything to rest with the Giants TE scenario


ROUND 2 - I am willing to make a bet with anyone that JD Walton will get hurt faster than David Baas did last year!  So that leaves us with garbage men Dallas Reynolds and possibly Jimmy Cordle (OH GOD NO!!!)  Please Jerry do us a favor and draft Weston Richburg from Colorado State at Center.  This way we will have depth at the position and when JD Walton under performs or gets hurt again we have an answer better than Dallas Reynolds.


ROUND 3 - Jerry Reese as already came out and stated that Will Beatty will be ready for Opending Day.  We are paying him a crapload of money so if he can play, he will start.  So Round 3 draft Nevada's LT Joel Bitonio.  He is 6'4 302 lbs.  It gives us depth behind William.


ROUND 4 - Defensive Tackle - we drafted BIG HANK Johnathan Hankins in the early rounds last year, he is obviously going to replace Linval.  We also have Cullen Jenkins and Marcus Kuhn.  I would draft Princeton's Caraun Reid to add more depth at this position.  Caraun is 6'2 and 302 lbs.


ROUND 5 - Defensive End - Well we have JPP, Kiwi, and DA Monster Moore, already in the mix... I would draft either Ed Stinson from Alabama or Brent Urban from Virginia as our #4 guy on the depth chart.  We also have DE Kendrick Adams listed on our roster... not that that means much.

I know this isn't the draft everybody wants or everybody pictured but to me it does a pretty good job filling our 5 big remaining spots to be filled.  I also think adding someone like Burleson would solidify our WR crop. 


Let the bashing begin!!!

ReneNYK1
ReneNYK1

I love Donald first and agree BAP and need,the second pick I would use on Niklas because he blocks great for the run which we truly need and he is a big target for Eli.Again need and close to BAP.In this draft the most deep position is WR and in this mock we don't get any ,I don't like that at all.I would consider Brandin Cooks with my first he's a Smith type of impact at wideout.Their are tons of fast real good tall recievers in this draft.I like the fast great cut guys like Brandin,he ran a 4.33 at the combine and has the best hands in the draft with the best routes.He gets open all the time.


http://draftbreakdown.com/video/brandin-cooks-vs-hawaii-utah-2013/

Brian Bannon
Brian Bannon

In my last mock draft i had Donald going to the Giants at 12 also, beefing up the interior of the d-line with the 12th pick is as good of an idea as any

Michael Stewart
Michael Stewart

@mcfly Donald is a lot like Justin Tuck was in his early years. Can play along the DL and cause mismatches and havoc to opposing teams. I've watched a lot of film on many of the prospects in this upcoming draft and the one thing that impresses me about Donald is that he never gives up on a play. If you watch his film, you will see him being double teamed at least 40% of the time and still make the play. Whether its behind the line of scrimmage or down field. Many have questioned his lack of size for a DT (6'1/285), however; his combine was so impressive (35 reps on the bench/7.11 on the 3 cone drill) that scouts believe (including myself) that this kid is going to be very special at the NFL level.

SNYGiants
SNYGiants moderator

@Peter Sinapi  If they took Ebron, they still wouldn't have one. In fact, he's never attended an NFL game. The first one he'll attend will be as a player.

urda83
urda83

@Skookaloop    I understand your point, no doubt about that.  However, If our first 3 picks in the draft are offensive players then I think that will go a long ways to fixing it.  BTW you forgot to add Super Mario 2 to your list.  

SNYGiants
SNYGiants moderator

@fast_eddie  The Giants take character into account when bringing players in. No different in FA

SNYGiants
SNYGiants moderator

@Eric Carter  I like Lewan, but it looks like the Giants don't. I think they will take an offensive skill player or a defender. FYI, Snee is not a center and he isn't an option there at this juncture of his career.

singlemalt
singlemalt

@Eric Carter I am 99% sure the Giants will not take Lewan. Too many concerns about his character.

fast_eddie
fast_eddie

@KS  


I am completely with you on Lewan and Niklas in rounds one and two...

Eric Carter
Eric Carter

I would love to see them get travis swanson in the 4th round great value pick and I think he could be our starting center for the future.

Michael Stewart
Michael Stewart

@urda83 Well done, It seems you have done your homework with the prospects. I am not in agreement with all your selections, but you have a solid list and I certainly can't argue with you on that. I like your 5th selections; especially Brent Urban. Not a household name, but tons of upside with the 5th round.

Peter Sinapi
Peter Sinapi

I don't like trading up personally. I guess it depends on the cost.