NFL Free Agency: What’s left to do for the Giants?

Day four of free agency is all cued up and ready to go. Unfortunately, for Giant fans, there’s not much hope of landing a big name at this point. It’ll likely be those low-risk, high-reward deals from here on in.

Of the top 25 free agents still available on NFL.com’s board, the Giants aren’t connected to any of them. (NFL.com)

When you think about it, the Giants have covered many of their needs already this week and only have a few bold strokes left in them.

Positions that could use some attending to: TE, C, WR and, oh yes, CB. The DE and DT market is only offering overaged and expensive options at this point.

We’re taking suggestions this morning, so fire away in the comment section…




35 comments
philj
philj

@SNYGiants sign de la puente, mack or zuttah (if he becomes available)....draft lewan...our o line becomes a strength of this team

take jace amaro in the second round (if they can get him)

get rodgers-cromartie for cheap and bring back T2

sign hester to be a return man and outside wr (has speed to stretch the field) for cheap

draft d-line if they can't bring in someone

cole3244
cole3244

it amazes me that some never criticize eli  for throwing interceptions its always the ol fault all three years he led the league.

not overpaying for a fa is critical, the draft needs to be the place you improve because of youth and salary which are positive elements the team can use to upgrade for the long term.


patience is necessary for the fo and the fans alike.



hashburry
hashburry

BTW, when does Manning take a significant pay cut, restructure his contract, and give the Giants more flexibility?  He ain't his brother.

Skookaloop
Skookaloop

GIANT OFFENSIVE Needs -

OC- ??? HELP, 911, EMERGENCY !!!!!!!!!!!!

Back-up OC- JD Walton --- F

OG- Geoff Schwartz --- A+

OG- we need 1 more & a TOP OG in the Draft...

TE- ???

RB- Rashad Jennings --- A+

RB- P. Hillis --- A+

WR-??? ( the Draft is Very DEEP)

GIANT DEFENSIVE Needs

CB- FA CB's are $$$$$, DRAFT --- A ( for NOT overpaying )

CB- DRAFT 

DE-Schofield- VERY VERY SCAREY--- F-

DE- Bring Back OJOMO

DT- ???

MLB- M. Herzlich --- C

MLB- J. Beason --- D (OVER PAIDed, REESE had NO Choice)

MLB- J. McClain --- B+ ( 3 MLBer's, the NYG's D, is now a 3-4 ???!!!???)

OLB- ??? ( a COVER LBer Pleeeeeeeeeaze)

OLB- ???

S- Stevie Brown ( Can Lightning Strike the same place Twice ??)--- A

GIANT SPECIAL TEAMs

K- Josh Brown --- A+

As of Now,

REESE has Done a GREAT Job...

the Schofield thing, is $8M, SUPER SCARY mess ???

LB J. Beason----

REESE put himself in a VERY BAD Position,

and the NYG's where FORCED to OVER PAY.

but EVERYONE will JUSTIFY OVER PAYing,

because of the AWESOME 11 Game 2013 Season he had for the GIANTS,

but It's NEVER OKAY to OVERPAY ....

the NYG's Still lost 36% of there Games With LB Beason...

and if the NYG's lost the GreenBay & Lions Game,

they would have LOST 54% of the Games with LB Beason...





Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

the giants should get james jones and either dietrich-smith or la puente.  I would draft a Tight End in the first round theres a few good ones.  And the rest of the draft i would concentrate on corner and defensive line

Michael Stewart
Michael Stewart

The Giants should focus on signing center Brian De La Puente if both sides come to a $$$ agreement. Then after that if they want to add additional players (low risk high return) to help fill the roster, that s fine. Once FA is completed, we should get an idea which direction Reese will go in the draft,.

Dave Rosenbluth
Dave Rosenbluth

Who they sign, will also say a lot about where they are likely to go at 12 in the draft.  I want 1 more good O-lineman whether it is draft or FA.  TE is a bit of a luxury in that with Jennings comming in, they have finally picked a RB that has ball catching skills, which I think is something we will see a lot more of with the new OC.  I also would not be surprised if any further signings they do are of the back-up depth type.

Kevin Joseph Patrick
Kevin Joseph Patrick

First & foremost, they need to add a veteran C in free agency. I would go with the cheaper of the two between Dietrich-Smith & De La Puente. They can't rely on the hope that Walton will be able to contribute. Second, they should try to lock up Finley at a one-year, incentive-laden deal. I haven't heard much in regards to his market, but coming off a serious neck injury & 2 years of declining performance, I don't expect he is going to get the $4 million per season that Pettigrew got. He could most likely be had for 2 years (at most), $5-$6 million guaranteed with incentives to reach $10 million. Third, the CB position is a mess. As it stands, we are looking at a top 3 of Prince, McBride, and Hosley. I would look to bring back T2 & go after the cheaper of Antonio Cromartie & DR-C. They can look to add depth on the O-Line & at CB in the draft. Finally, I would hold off on the WR position until the draft unless someone like James Jones comes to us at a discount. This year's draft is deep with WRs & I really like Kelvin Benjamin from FSU. At 6'5 he brings the size we haven't had since Plaxico shot himself, and he will allow for Cruz to play the slot, with Randle / Jurnigan at the other split and. The only issue is that there is no guarantee he will be there when the Giants draft. Right now he is projected as a mid-to-late 1st rounder & I expect his stock to rise after the FSU Pro Day. Sammy Watkins is clearly the best WR in the draft, and a lot of guys have Mike Evans second, with Benjamin 3rd. On any other year, with less depth at the position, Benjamin is a top 7 pick. There is also the chance that Benjamin stays where he is projection-wise & the Giants could trade down, get a couple extra picks to work on OL & CB depth, and still get Benjamin in the mid-20's. Some people like Marquise Lee (USC) & Oddell Beckham, Jr. (LSU) better than Benjamin, but they aren't fits for the Giants. Losing Nicks, the Giants need outside WR help. Lee & Beckham are more slots than outside guys.

As it stands, the Giants aren't going to be able to fill all their holes without reworking a contract or two. I'm not sure Cruz would be willing to rework so soon, but Eli should definitely be asked, especially after not playing $20-plus million per year ball the past couple years. In a perfect world the Giants would get done what I suggested, especially be lucky enough to trade down & grab an impact WR in the draft, but we all know that isn't going to happen; something is going to get in the way.

cedes
cedes

I get the feeling the Giants are content at tight end - They like Donnell and Robinson, and will hopefully add one in the draft (I'm hoping Niklaus or Fiedorowicz last to round 3).

I would like to see DE adressed in free agency rather than the draft. Antonio Smith of the Texans is still out there I think, and he could be a cheaper alternative to Justin Tuck. Or, as John mentioned yesterday, Robert Ayers.

If Gilbert and Lewan are gone by 12 I would really like to see the Giants trade back...maybe with the Jets.. still too many holes on this roster.

the center needs to be adderssed now . Two good one's left . Sign one as the starter  . Could Jared Allen be  considered for a two year deal like Tuck .. The rest use the draft for TE , WR or OT .

sam
sam

Why can't they restructure Eli's contract to free up more cap space

rico
rico

How about WR Steve Smith ? (the HOF one). He was released by the Panthers yesterday.

ReneNYK1
ReneNYK1

Dietrich-Smith because he knows our offensive coordinator system.

Brian Bannon
Brian Bannon

I like some of the names still out there at a few positions, center is obvious with La Punte and Dietrich-Smith out there, but another possibility if those two fall through could be Samson Satele, at wide out i have a strange feeling Manningham is gonna find his way back to the Giants on the cheap, but i'd prefer someone like Robert Meachem, Austin Collie or take a really big gamble with a guy like Kenny Britt or Danario Alexander, at linebacker Desmond Bishop, Parys Haralson and Akeem Jordan are still available, and a guy i really like that could add depth in the middle is Pat Angerer, secondary wise the corner situation in free agency at this point is gonna be a bit of a gamble, but Richard Marshall, Dimitri Patterson, Charles Tillman, Walter Thurmond, Tarrell Brown, Javier Arenas and both Cromartie brothers are still out there, any one of those guys would help out

I am surprised TE wasn't addressed.  I thought for sure they would of signed Andrew Quarless.  Now i expect a pic in draft to address that and WR.

drewc
drewc

I would think the center position needs to be addressed soon.

Michael Frias
Michael Frias

@Skookaloop And if the Queen had balls, She'd be the king.


If Beason plays at the same level he did last year, that deal will look great.


And I thought the Schofield deal was off because of a failed physical?

Michael Frias
Michael Frias

@Mike Dell Italia For how the Giants utilize the TE position, I don't think they should waste the #12 on a TE.  There are really good OL and DL that should go early in this draft, and a few really good WRs. 


Draft-wise, The Giants are in a great spot. There are 12 guys this year that project to be head an shoulder above everyone else. 


The 3 QBs that will all go in the top 10 (That the Giants have no interest in. Clowney, Mack, Mosley, 3 stud OTs, Gilbert, and the two WRs (Evans and Watkins)


Giants will probably be in position to take CB Justin Gilbert, WR Mike Evans or OT Taylor Lewan.


If Gilbert drops to 12, I'd love to see them take him.  If he's gone, and they have confidence in Randle, I think they should take Lewan.  It would allow them to move Pugh inside to guard, and allow them the liberty of using Snee as a backup.


The TE pool is kinda deep this year, but none of the guys are really 1st round talents, let alone top 10-15 guys.  Except for maybe Ebron from UNC.

@Kevin Joseph Patrick  Eli is killing the cap but there isn't much they can do unless he takes a straight pay cut. Cruz's deal was structured to save cap room last year and this year so it wont be reworked. They could save by extending Rolle but at 31 I don't think they want to commit too many years just to save a few million this year.

SNYGiants
SNYGiants moderator

 Center does need to be addressed, but not at a prohibitive price. Allen is not an option. Not a big city guy. Plus he'll get Ware money when he signs. 

SNYGiants
SNYGiants moderator

@sam  Good question. The reason is likely they don't want to. They will absorb some financial pain and wait to see if he bounces back.

SNYGiants
SNYGiants moderator

@rico  Too old, plus they have Cruz, Randle and Jernigan. The next WR they draft/sign will be one with length to line up outside

spider43
spider43

@ReneNYK1  .... No longer a possibility. Signed with the free spending Buccaneers yesterday. So it's DLP, Mack, or bust.

SNYGiants
SNYGiants moderator

 They made offers, but the draft has some good ones, so they won't overpay

Brian Bannon
Brian Bannon

The tight end pool is scary, lotta damaged goods out there, i thought someone like Garrett Graham or Scott Chandler would've been nice, but they both signed already

Skookaloop
Skookaloop

@Michael Frias @Skookaloop  

Business is Business,

REPEATED Bad Business,

is GROSS NEGLIGENCE,

When a CFO of a $800Million Company,

gets out Negotiated by a--

AGENT-LESS PLAYER,

thats BAD BUSINESS,

the CFO's #1 Job is PLAYER CONTRACT NEGOTIAIONS,

so you TWIST it any way you WANT....

BTW,

the " IF Beason PLAYs "

sounds like you think REESE over PAID Also...

... kick the can. is a KIDs Game,

not a Business Strategy...

Kevin Joseph Patrick
Kevin Joseph Patrick

I would love to see Lewan fall to 12, but it's just not going to happen. Lewan was a 4 year starter at a school known for producing quality O-Linemen. He has all of the physical assets to be an outstanding OT & from what I hear, he is pretty intelligent, too. As it stands right now, 1.5 months before the draft, there are a couple mock drafts that have him falling to 12, but come draft time I am certain he will be a lock to get picked in the top 10. If you look at every draft, except for WalterFootball, Lewan keeps moving closer & closer to being a top 10 pick. He's just too good to not be picked up in the top 10, especially with so many teams ahead of the Giants needing OL help.

I wouldn't mind Reese taking Gilbert at 12, especially if we don't add a player in free agency, but I don't see him spending 2 first round picks in 4 years on the same position. Nevertheless, there is no question that CB is a position of need for the Giants. As it stands, our top 3 CBs are Prince, McBride, and Hosley. Furthermore, we don't know which JPP we are going to get in 2014; Damontre Moore has the talent, but is a complete unknown; Kiwi is not a great pass rusher; and we don't have a LB on the roster that is a plus pass rusher. We have been able to mask our deficiencies in the secondary (Corey Webster) with a very good pass rush but with the loss of Tuck, albeit a declining Tuck, we don't have that luxury anymore. We were exposed back there the past couple years when our guys couldn't get to the QB. Also, QB's are also coming with quicker & quicker release times in the pocket. The Giants' defense has notoriously struggled against QBs with quick releases. With all that being said, I am not completely sold on Gilbert being the best CB in the league. He has the ability to be a Revis-like cover guy, but his attitude & immaturity could have him become Aaron Ross (I only say Ross because he was drafted right after Revis). I am higher on Darqueeze Dennard from MSU as the top CB in this draft. CB is also a position that has some depth in the draft. Bradley Roby is a kid from Ohio State that coming into 2013, he was considered the best draft-eligible CB prospect. He struggled a little last year, which dropped his stock, but he should be there when the Giants draft in the 2nd round. I would be more keen on taking him in round 2 than taking Gilbert in round 1 because Gilbert screams red flags & has high bust potential.

The position I firmly believe we should draft in round 1 is WR. The last 1st round WR we drafted was Nicks, and with him leaving after his rookie deal expired, the WR position comes up in the first round draft cycle. If you look at Giants' past drafts, they tend to use a cycle like this & rarely draft based on need; instead they draft based upon best available & mix up positions on a year to year basis in the 1st round. Like Gilbert, I'm not as high on Mike Evans as other guys are. I watched just about every Texas A&M game the past 2 years & there is no question that Evans is a talented player who could have some success at the NFL level. However, I believe he was a product of Johnny Manziel more than Manziel benefitting from Evans. People are unsure about Manziel, but I'm not. I think Manziel is an absolutely amazing talent & I think he will absolutely tear up the NFL. It might not be right off the bat, but it will happen. Therefore, the guy I would take in the first round, no questions asked, is Kelvin Benjamin from Florida State. I think he will raise his stock enough at the FSU Pro Day that he will come down to a top 15 pick from where he is right now, a late first rounder. Unlike Evans benefitting from Manziel, I believe that Jameis Winston benefitted immensely from Benjamin. There are 5 WRs who could go in this years draft (Watkins, Evans, Benjamin, Lee, and Beckham). Watkins is clearly the #1 guy, but after him the rankings are based upon what the team is looking for in their WR. Lee & Beckham are slot guys, whereas Evans & Benjamin are are outside guys. Benjamin has the size Evans has - he's 6'5 - but he is much more physical than Evans. Benjamin is the type of receiver that Eli can throw the ball up to as he's running for his life behind this O-Line & Benjamin will fight tooth & nail to come down with the ball. If Benjamin stays where he is projected on draft day, the Giants could be in a position to trade out of the #12 pick to the mid-20's & still land him while adding more draft picks to add depth to the secondary & O-Line. I think this is a no-brainer decision. If you look at what is left in free agency, Benjamin is better than any available WR, whereas it is uncertain that Benjamin is better than a guy like Antonio Cromartie or DR-C. Adding an outside guy like Benjamin will allow for Cruz to play inside, instead of outside opposite Randle (who I am not sold on). It will also allow for MacAdoo to utilize the 4 WR sets that Green Bay is known for (Benjamin & Randle outside; Jernigan & Cruz inside), with a talented pass-catching back like Jennings coming out of the backfield as a check-down. It's a perfect fit for the Giants based upon need & talent. It also gives Eli a weapon he hasn't had since Plaxico & at this point Eli needs as much help as he can get.

spider43
spider43

@Michael Frias...  I think Gilbert, though he's a good talent, is more like the "flavor of the month". He's not much taller than Hosley. I like Dennard better, because of his height and hitting ability, and though not as fast as Gilbert, he's still a capable ballhawk in the vein of someone like Rolle.


If both Evans and Lewan were gone, the Giants could probably trade down just a few spots and still land a pretty solid player like Dennard or Ebron, even Zack Martin could be a respectable pickup if necessary. Doing such a thing would certainly be beneficial from the standpoint of picking up extra draft picks with which to fill holes.

cedes
cedes

@SNYGiants Any thoughts on Jerrico Cotchery as an option? I always liked him until he burned me for 3TDs in fantasy football last year

spider43
spider43

@Skookaloop...  So far, I have heard that the Schofield contract has fallen thru, but nothing officially announced that I have seen. There is always the possibility the Giants are playing this one too cautiously to get Schofield to accept a much lower, incentive laced contract, which would be fine if we're talking about adding veteran depth to the LB corps. Not sure it will happen, the situation remains fluid.


As for JD Walton, he was a decent C prior to his 2012 injury in Denver. He's really nothing more than depth at this point, just a Jim Cordle replacement level center. He will be the competition to whoever they bring in to be the starting center. I'm not sweating JD Walton.

Skookaloop
Skookaloop

@Michael Frias @Skookaloop  #1. Yes, OVER-PAID...

#2. 100% Agree Great Fit.

#3. ILB J.McClain & 2013 Season, played in ALL 16 games, MLB M. Herzlich.

#4. Yes. a Lot of Work to DO,

Still FA's & DRAFT---

But, for now, a Great Start,

REESE is MOVING in a VERY POSITIVE DIRECTION...

Good Addition:

OG Schwarts

RB Jennings

RB Hillis

ILB McClain

Good Subtraction:

DE Tuck ( REESE Didn't Over Pay) A+

DT LJ-( REEE Didn't Over Pay) A+

CB ( REESE Didn't Over-Pay) A+

Good Saves:

K J. Brown

S S. Brown

the UGLY

DE/OLB Tweener $8M Scholfield ???

C JD. Walton ??? Really ?!?!?!?

Michael Frias
Michael Frias

@Skookaloop @Michael Frias I really don't think they grossly overpaid as much as everyone else does. 


He was (arguably) the best MLB available, and has a dozen more games of experience in the current NYG system than any of the other available MLBs out there.


Contract averages out to a little over $6.3 million a year, and only $7 million is guaranteed.  Is it a little much for a 30 year old MLB?  Maybe.  Did he "Rip-Off" the Giants?  I don't think so.


If they played HardBall, like you suggested, and he walked, who did you want as his replacement at MLB?  Don't just blindly complain about moves, at least give constructive alternatives.


Plus, if the Giants are as busted as you, and many others (myself included), have claimed them to be over the last few months, 4 days of free agency isn't going to fix it.  There's still 4 months of free agency left, plus the draft.


We truly won't know if Reese "fixed" the Giants until mid-December, when they're a dozen or so games into the season.  Until then, it's all blind speculation and guessing.

spider43
spider43

@Kevin Joseph Patrick  .....  Lewan may not drop to #12, and I agree with your take on Gilbert (I also think Dennard is a better overall CB). But I'm not sure I agree with your take on Evans. Even at the same size as Benjamin, Evans has very good speed, better than Benjamin from the Combine. That is like having a second coming of Calvin Johnson (not saying that he is, but the appearances are close). To me, this is what separates Evans from Benjamin. Benjamin's comparison to Plaxico may be a good one, but Plaxico never struck me as having breakaway speed. Benjamin like Plax, is more of a possession receiver and red zone threat. Evans does all of the above - speed, possession, red zone threat.


While I think the Giants should draft a WR at #12, I'm beginning to lean they will not be doing that. I think the recent losses during the last  two off-seasons of Osi and Tuck will have Reese focusing his attention once more to the defensive line position, especially with question marks that still surround JPP. I'm not sure there is a DE worth taking there at #12, so there may be the possibility that Reese goes DT (Jernnigan) or trades down to grab someone still high on his board.


While not drafting one of the "elite 12" players available in this draft would be somewhat of a letdown, I could at least justify trading down to pick up extra draft picks and still get a very good player who may contribute right away.  Personally, I think Dennard or Ebron fit that description in a trade down scenario, but I can't get a read on Reese.


Frankly, the Giants have so many holes to fill, it almost doesn't matter to me who they pick. I just want them to pick someone who will contribute right away, and NOT be sitting on the bench all year "developing" like a Poloroid picture.