Mosley says he’s an option for Giants in Round One

John Fennelly, Lead Writer

I’m not buying into Conor Orr’s report that the Giants are interested in Alabama LB CJ Mosley with the No. 12 pick in Round One tonight. Not that I don’t trust Conor’s work — he’s a good reporter — it’s just that I don’t think taking Mosley is the best use of that selection.

USATSI_7705674_110579513_lowresUnless… they change their defensive scheme. Last year, they played five defensive backs on nearly 40 percent of the snaps. In Week 16 vs the pass-happy Lions, the Giants employed five DBs on 100 percent of the snaps. Yes, they played most of the season out of their 4-3 base.

MLB Jon Beason was the centerpiece of the defense once he took over at MLB in mid-October, so he rarely left the field. Spencer Paysinger played 61 percent of the snaps, Jacquian Williams 53 percent and Keith Rivers 37 percent.

Is that because the team felt they had more talent at DB than they had at LB? Perhaps. But the reality is, the Giants favor the 4-2-5 and drafting Mosley would displace one of those incumbents or newcomer Jameel McClain, who the Giants just signed to a 2-year deal in March.

Now, it’s been bandied about that the Giants were toying with Cooper Taylor as a real option at safety this season, especially now that Will Hill is likely to be suspended. If Mosley comes in, that plan would probably be scratched, especially if Mosley proves he can cover backs and TEs as well as advertised.

Mosley should only be the choice if all four of the big offensive lineman, Aaron Donald, Mike Evans, Odell Beckham and Eric Ebron are gone. Then there is the possibility that Mosley could be gone, too.


 

What to expect tonight….

Round One will be an impact player. A player who will be Pro Bowl-caliber. In short, the best player available. There should be plenty for them to choose from as we’ve been detailing for the past three months. You can always count on a blue-chipper falling as there are bound to be some knuckleheaded moves made by some of the teams in front of them.

I fully expect the Giants to bring another safety or CB into the fold this weekend. If Deone Bucannon is there for them in Round Two or Three, I feel they will take him. Rounds 2-3 could also bring them a TE or a center, but we’ll dwell more on that tomorrow.




15 comments
04doctored14
04doctored14

In defense of picking Mosley or someone comparable in early round--what happens if Beason goes down with injury?  We presently have no competent replacement on roster last time I looked.

Peter Sinapi
Peter Sinapi

My top 5 remain unchanged:

1) Evans

2) Lewan

3) Ebron

4) Donald

5) Dennard/Gilbert

Question to all: if the giants can somehow move up to the top of the draft and not lose this years #2, but it costs a 3 and next year's 1, would you do it for Clowney? I don't think I would but I was curious to see hat others thought.

spider43
spider43

I would rather have OT Cyrus Kouandijo or  JuWan James in the 2nd round than reach for Zach Martin at #12. By the way, what nobody is talking about with regard to Martin, is that he has "short arms" too, perhaps shorter than people made such a big deal about with Pugh last year.  I say, pick Donald 1st round if one of the Big 3 Tackles is not available at #12, then get your OT in the 2nd or 3rd round.


Martin is a reach at #12, even worse than Pugh was last year at #19.

spider43
spider43

I will state now for the record prior to the draft that I will be disappointed if the Giants select Zach Martin. The whole idea of Mara stating his opinion about the draft was to send a message that the team needs to change their draft philosophy to get players who can make more of an immediate impact/contribution to the team. THAT description does not apply to Zach Martin. The only way he cracks the starting lineup this year is if Beatty starts the year on the PUP list. If the object of this year's draft is protecting Eli and keeping him upright THIS season, Martin is not the right pick.


If the Giants want players to be contributors as soon as possible, they need to be looking in another direction, even if that means on the defensive side of the ball. That's why I think unless he is chosen by the Vikings at #8, the most logical pick for the Giants if the Top 3 Offensive Tackles are gone is Aaron Donald. If he can be utilized like Justin Tuck between DE/DT, he is smart enough and athletic enough to fit our system.


I would even choose Gilbert over Martin at #12 if for some reason he was still available. But if the Giants end up with either of Martin or Ebron at #12, that would be a letdown for me. I would rather trade back than select Martin or Ebron at #12.

jwill
jwill

Imagine if a team drafted and signed some WRs. None of them worked out, so the team spends the season focusing on the run and short passes. They develop somewhat of an identity as a run-first team and they have a descent season. Draft comes around and they have the chance to draft what projects to be a game-changing WR. But they pass on said WR because now they're a "run-first" team. 


Does that seam plausible, because that's what the Giants are doing with this sub-package. It's not that they didn't want to run a full 4-3 the last couple seasons. It's that the set of LBs presented when the Giants run a 4-3 were not able to defend that team. And by the way, both seasons they didn't make the playoffs, largely due to a lack of production in the middle of the defense.


The Giants are running a sub-package because they have LBs that either lack instinct (rivers), lack speed (Herz, Beason), or are still developing (Williams, Paysinger). What that means is that they lack versatility, speed, and playmaking ability in the middle to adjust to a league that becomes faster and more diverse every season. If they have a chance to get an all-world LB, I think they should take him. If it's not Mosely, they should have plan for how they're going to address this part of the defense. if it was me, I wouldnt take 2 seconds to send that card in if Mosely is there. He's everything: speed, coverage ability, tackling, plays the run, makes big plays, and, remember how important this is, a record of leadership.

Skookaloop
Skookaloop


the NYG's might Draft in the 4th-6th Rounds.....

LT/OG/C - Jack Mewhort, 6'6", 309lb's, OHIO State....

DT- Caraum Reid

OG- Jon Halapio

RB- Tyler Gaffney, 6', 226lb's, Stanford.....

WR- Jeff Janis

OLB- Tyler Starr

WR- Cody Hoffman

SS- Vinnie Suneri, 5'11", 210lb's. "Bama

CB- Loucheiz Purifoy



jwill
jwill

@Peter Sinapi  I wouldnt do it. Drafts this deep, no need to trade. You can literally find a game-breaking player in every round of the draft. 

spider43
spider43

@Peter Sinapi  .... Not for Clowney. I would have done it for Jevon Kearse or Julius Peppers when they came out of college. Clowney is good, but not as good as them. Kearse holds the rookie sack record of 14.5 sacks. Clowney doesn't get that many this year, even with the Texans picking him to play opposite of JJ Watt. Clowney is overrated. A good player, maybe even deserving of the #1 overall pick, but still overrated.


If I were going to trade up, I trade up for Mack, Watkins, Robinson, or Matthews. Not Clowney.

Peter Sinapi
Peter Sinapi

I hate when people say Pugh was a reach. He outplayed every rookie lineman other than Fluker last year and was a 1st all rookie.

Skookaloop
Skookaloop

@jwill  

100% CORRECT on the Cause of the NYG's SUB-PACKAGES....

the LACK of LB'er,

was Caused by REESE's Mis-Management of the Sal-Cap....

REESE decided the LBer's would be the Position NOT to pay for....

the TRUTH is.... the GIANTs haven't had a Real MLBer since AP, 2008...

LB J.Beason was the 1st, but came much TOO LATE ...

Game 5, 2014...... thats 5 a half Years !!!???!!!

thats Why KIWi was playing OLBer... when he shouldn't Have...

And Why Safety Rolle,

was the HIGHEST PAID Slot CB EVER in the NFL, $9Million...

REESE's ROSTER of HORROR's

jwill
jwill

@Skookaloop  If they can get Caraun Reid in the 4th round, that would be very nice.

Peter Sinapi
Peter Sinapi

I would trade up for Evans, Mack...I think Watkins and the top 2 lineman will cost too much.

jwill
jwill

@Peter Sinapi  Reach/Value designations are not a rating of the player's ability or future accomplishments. Chris Johnson was reach by about 25 picks. Ryan Nassib was a great value.

jwill
jwill

@Skookaloop  Very much agree. Reese's thing is supposed to be that he's this cap wizard. Well Reese drafted Linval Joseph. Joseph actually fulfilled his potential. And because he fulfilled his potential, Reese was unable to pay him. Same thing with Martellus Bennett. 


Is that what it means to be a cap genius? Whenever a player actually flourishes in the Giants system, Reese will just underpay them or let them walk off into the sunset? Meanwhile he signs junk-heap players like Shaun Rogers and Aaron Ross right and left? What's the basis? 


And think about this, the Giants LB situation was so bad int he beginning of the season, that Beason, who cant cover a TE to save his life, and who I saw wiff on plenty of passes, came in and blew the front office away with his 72 solo tackles. No sacks. No FF's. One INT. LMAO. That's a MLB?


Then you get these project players that everyone's waiting for? I guess as long as they're middling they'll be okay? And if they get good they can go sign with another team? Travis Beckum made a pretty descent career of making everyone believe that he was going to flourish some day. We all waited. 


Reese, as a GM, has a lot to prove over the next season. And it's not only about how the draft goes.