Giants final special teams report card, presented by Long Island University

Special Teams: C+

John Fennelly, Lead Writer

Only one team had more gross punting yards than the Giants (4,271) and that was the Jacksonville Jaguars. And it’s not because Steve Weatherford has a strong leg, either.

The Giants gave up three punt returns for TDs, tying the 3-13 Washington Redskins for the league high. They also gave up a TD on botched snap.

Steve WeatherfordHard to believe there are six teams with a lower punt return average (7.2 YPA) than the Giants. Rueben Randle had a long of 32, but mostly he called for fair catches or got hit after a few yards.

The Giants’ 21.2 YPA on kickoff returns was 28th in the NFL and their longest return wasn’t until Michael Cox broke off a 56-yarder near the end of the season.

PK Josh Brown made 29 of 30 FGAs but did not attempt a 50-plus yarder until Week 16. His kickoffs were usually high and deep and the Giants held opponents to a modest 21.8 yards per return.

The skinny: The Giants’ specials are bland because they lack explosiveness. David Wilson’s injury erased any possibility of a KO being taken to the house. The roster was top heavy with lineman, so on gameday, ST coordinator Tom Quinn had little speed to work with. Throw in the fact that their best ST player in the preseason (Kyle Bosworth) was cut only worsened things. It wasn’t until the Giants brought in Jon Conner and got Will Hill back from suspension did things start to calm down this season.

LIU




825 comments
Kevin Olenick
Kevin Olenick

lakers with melo and kobe together? whats the point. i would not put two trios together. it will not be the best to compete. Winning 60 games in one season is very indifferent with the two iso players working together. melo is not the answer to what the lakers need. the thing that both sides need is some players with athletic strength and a supporter for melo..

siknick
siknick

The only shot knicks have is trying to get gasol here . Trying to work a three team deal where we can get rondo because melo wanted to play with him.

siknick
siknick

I have a feeling he leaving he was so disgusted last season with the team ,you can see after every game he didn't even know what to say. Our best shot to trying to keep him is to get another quality player to share the load with him .or just blow it up completly

dylan
dylan

The Lakers would need to add about 10 minimum contracts just to fill out their roster lol. They have 4 players under contract. That team isn't winning 45 games in the West, even with Kobe, Melo, Gasol, and Nash. Depth is more important than a lot of people seem to realize. They would be an injury away from missing the playoffs. 

dylan
dylan

The Lakers have less of a chance competing in the West than the Knicks do in the East this year, and have less financial flexibility next year with Kobe making 23 mil. Somebody explain how Melo to LA makes any sense.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

Someone in Melo's camp leaked this rumor out tonight to multiple sources. There has to be a reason, but my crystal ball is cloudy.

knickstape
knickstape

I dont understand what Melo is doing he clearly knows where he's going to go by now so why not just get the decision over with

brookdon
brookdon

lol this Laker rumor is hilarious. Melo is going to take less money to go to a worse team in another conference? Enjoy the sun and nice weather this weekend and await the press conference upcoming next week.

KnickelusKnickleby
KnickelusKnickleby

Carmelo's /Terror Squad Team just won at Tri State Classic if anyone who can ask Melo whats really good it's Joey Crack 

pagey72
pagey72

Let's try this again:

This would never happen, but if we moved STAT without taking salary back (how??), we could sign LBJ to the max and still sign Melo to the max because we have his bird rights. We'd have to pay luxury tax up the w#zoo, but it's technically possible.

samb
samb

Relax. He ain't signing anywhere else. This is all posturing mixed with reporters that have nothing to report. He will re-up Monday then you'll hear pau coming in and all will be good in knickland

pagey72
pagey72

I tried to post something, but says pending. Why??

orlando_knickfan
orlando_knickfan

Tim Bontemps @TimBontemps

To my earlier tweet about Carmelo: why would he take less money than the he could get from the Knicks to play on as bad or worse a team?

samb
samb

Melo goes to la in a sign and trade for Kobe

KnickelusKnickleby
KnickelusKnickleby

I personally think the Laker Organization is Cursed after Phil Left and Buss passed 

KnickelusKnickleby
KnickelusKnickleby

If things were one sided it wouldn't be Melodrama..this will be over soon enough 

we hold weight but then again we're the Knicks things either go our way or usually doesn't 


Bringing Phil on board hopefully changes that Trend 


Melo Stays Great...If he leaves lets see our new team try to do something new and exciting 

pagey72
pagey72

This would never happen, but if we moved STAT without taking salary back (how??), we could sign LBJ to the max and still sign Melo to the max because we have his bird rights. We'd have to pay luxury tax up the wazoo, but it's technically possible.

dylan
dylan

@bockers I don't understand why some people like him so much. He made a ton of bad moves.


He passed on Jennings and Lawson for Hill. 


He traded for Randolph and Turiaf instead of Ellis. 


He passed on Stephenson for Fields are Rautins. 


He gave Amar'e a max deal. 


He picked up Billups' ridiculous option. 


He tried to sign Joe Johnson to a max deal.


He hired D'Antoni as heacoach.



Tikki
Tikki

@Knicks_Fanatic

Perhaps the reason is that the Knicks haven't actually "formally" offered the max?  I assumed the the verbal, informal max offer was to allow Carmelo the leeway to negotiate a lower contract amount.  Maybe this information is being leaked to force the Knicks' hand.

pagey72
pagey72

That dude ain't Kobe.

samb
samb

The pic on the right looks like denzel

rico
rico

Um , it's Saturday night, Phil is probably 5 bottles of Vino down and knee deep in some jenny buss-up.

Even if something happened, the knicks offices, league offices, agents, lawyers, pr people are all off or closed.

I suggest you treat yourself to a glass of wine and wait til next week.

pagey72
pagey72

I wrote w#zoo with an "a"! Since when is that a bad word? Haha

knickfan2
knickfan2

@Orlando_Knickfan Do the Lakers even have a coach yet?

Kevin Olenick
Kevin Olenick

@samb are we in Lakers LALA today? phil is making the new york have bright lights.

pagey72
pagey72

Why would we ever do this?

KnickelusKnickleby
KnickelusKnickleby

@samb New York Culture has to change, no more passed their prime,coming off injury stars. 

Hope Phil says " Kobe i love you, but our time was our time "

rico
rico

Huh? One of the winningest, if not winningest ( boston/ la?) in the history of the game....damn...i have never been a fan of la but CURSED?

Can we get some of that Curse in NY?

chudogz1
chudogz1

@dylan. Great points.. He also passed on Eric Gordon for Danillo.. But taking Hill in a pg heavy draft, over Jennings, Holiday and Lawson, when we needed a pg, was the worst, IMO

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@lobcity 

There are a few possibilities.

1) Phil and CAA are in an adversarial relationship and someone wants to play games.

2) CAA wants to keep a sign and trade in play with the Bulls. The Lakers provide CAA with a threat of Melo leaving for nothing, forcing Phil to either trade or come up empty.

3) Maybe it's true, that Melo is considering the Lakers.

I'm going with number 1 that CAA is getting even for Phil's public negotiating tactics in the press. They are simply giving him a taste of his own medicine. Remember that right after the Lakers offered Melo the max, Phil had to backtrack and also offer the max, saying he never said he wouldn't offer it. It's pretty petty.



knickfan2
knickfan2

@pagey72 Kobe lives in the gym...no way he gets on the Felton "try it" diet. Lol

pagey72
pagey72

I'm not suggesting sign and trade with Miami, but like I said I don't how we can move STAT without taking back salary unless someone like LAL or Philly can take on his salary.

dylan
dylan

@chudogz The Tracy McGrady trade... He really did a pretty horrible job. I guess anything looks good after Layden and Thomas. 

Art Perez
Art Perez

@Knicks_Fanatic @lobcity While No. 2 is feasible, I'd think Phil would rather lose Melo to Lakers in the Western Conference for nothing rather than trade to an Eastern Conference rival like the Bulls.. I know I sure would

rico
rico

You can't move Stat without taking back salary, the only thing would be if he retired, or had a season ending injury.

knickfan2
knickfan2

@Orlando_Knickfan how can a team with no coach be so sure they can land Melo? smh

All of this media driven hysteria is too funny.

rico
rico

Either way zzzzzzzz....c'mon nick you can do better

KnickelusKnickleby
KnickelusKnickleby

@rico lol the organization didn't go downhill since then? tell me how much better they are then us right now aside from when Kobe is healthy or not 


rico
rico

Dead topic posting