Eli Manning: How Much Does He Need Victor Cruz?

Victor Cruz. We all love him. Eli Manning said yesterday that he would restructure his deal to help the Giants keep him. But business is business. Cruz can put his name on an offer sheet from now until April 19th. If that happens, the Giants will have five days to match or lose him to another team.

Of course they will receive that team’s first round draft pick in next month’s NFL Draft. With that pick, they can get themselves a much-needed LB, OL, CB or even another receiver. If Cruz receives no offers, he will stay with the Giants for at least another year. The best case scenario, however, is getting Cruz’ signature on a long-term deal.

The Giants have a healthy Hakeem Nicks returning, along with Rueben Randle and recently-signed speedster Louis Murphy. Keeping Cruz in the fold would make that an even more imposing unit.

The WheelHouse discusses how much Eli Manning needs wide receiver Victor Cruz on the roster this season.

186 comments
John Falcone
John Falcone

Our next 6 games are just crazy, I will suspend any illusions of grandeur (making the playoffs) until after they play these games.  If we are still within 4-5 pts of the playoffs at the break, then we'll have a solid chance at it in March. 

shlo
shlo

How about Brock Nelson, a PROSPECT who worked out, last pick of the first round, too early to call a gem, but a steal.

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

I took the time to watch this game.  It was a holiday schedule at Bethpage and Eisenhower and that means no senior rate.  Not that I'm cheap but,,, I got to stay home, enjoy a cold beverage, and watch a win.  That's a good thing.  They did give away a point but, they are still learning, and getting better. 

Butchie did make the comment after the first period, "you can't win with poor goal tending".  that's a pretty damning comment about what he thinks about the two kids we have in goal until Nabokov returns.  But, the team took care of that in the second and third, making Nilsson's afternoon a bit easier.  I did get a bit nervous in the over-time when he lost his stick and made that butt save on his hands and knees.  I'm happy,,, I think I'll go pop open another Gennie Cream Ale...

since72
since72

I'm not going to respond to anyone in general, but some of you guys are never happy.  You just watched the team erase a 2 goal deficit against a good team and win it in a shoot out.  A little bit of optimism would not be out of order.  I know you guys are fans, but it almost seems like you are happiest when they are playing poorly.


microcosmo
microcosmo

So just play 1 period then, forget a full 60 minutes, go behind 2 goals and save the awesomeness forwhen it counts ! Wow to win like this crazy butwhatever, bring onthe rags!

rmreturns
rmreturns

Did I just watch a deep team, filled with experienced defensive vets take a 3-1 lead into the third, play in a shell, cough up a two goal lead and lose in a shoot out.

Well, I wish the Isles had some heart, drive and desire to overcome adversity... Oh wait, it's about Wang and his real estate empire...

GFY..I could mean " good for you", but I probably don't.

It is a young team, learning. And yes Zimmerman- you do play for the guy in the locker next to you. While your on the deck, collecting your head after the cheap shot, the guy in locker next to you is trading punches with that clown. That you would mock " team" that is the clearest indication you never played real sports, or served in any capacity.

CaptainT
CaptainT

okposo with the GORDIE HOWE HAT TRICK. wen was the last time we had a beast like that? 20 goals! #CaptainAmerica

Peter Puglisi
Peter Puglisi

By the way all....Steve Olesky was put on waivers by the Caps today...+7 on a team in the midst of a 5 game losing streak that can't get their goaltending figured out....would be a big upgrade over martinek and carkner 

Peter Puglisi
Peter Puglisi

If the islanders some how manage to make the playoffs...I am not sure how JT doesn't at least get nominated for the Hart....he has just gotten better and better and is the only reason this team is now 5 out....gotta get 2 at MSG tomorrow...

isles23
isles23

Bring on the Rangers!!!!

gleichzahl
gleichzahl

that was two helpless goalies in the shootout...  :)

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

@shlo 

I have a dream,,, wait a minute,,, that belongs to someone else today...

Anyway, I do think that Nelson with Strome and Lee could be a pretty good second line...

rmreturns
rmreturns

Fair position redspoint. You can use outstanding goaltending to overcome bad play- that would be both the Flyers and Leafs all season. But even then, it will catch up to you.

mrcisback
mrcisback

@since72  Some of these guys wouldn't be happy even if they won the lottery. They would still find something to complain about.

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

@since72 

I'm happy.  I missed the opportunity to work on my iron game and stayed in to watch the this game.  They won, and any dat with an Islander win is okay...

isles23
isles23

Well said 72, some seem to hate the owner so much that they enjoy the team losing more than winning.

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

@since72 They lost a point in a home at home. Cheer down there. They're still 26th overall. Lottery time. 


Nevermind. I read yourpost below. You're a sockpuppet. Have fun astroturfing! 

grand_puba
grand_puba

@Peter Puglisi Why would they be putting him on waivers?! +7 on a solid team granted one that is slumping. Totally agree he is worth a look.

rmreturns
rmreturns

Agreed.

At $561k this season and next, it is a low risk, high upside move... You can never roster enough bottom pair NHL defenders, more so at that cost..

Please Grab him Garth...

since72
since72

@gleichzahl Emery is no more than a back up.  His stats are near the bottom of the league.  Give Nilsson credit.  He played well enough to win.

isles23
isles23

@redspointofview; I'd love to see that line, question though. Who would you have a center?

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

@rmreturns 

Just call me RED,,, you remember who I am...

And that is why I believe the playoffs to be a pipe dream this year.  Our goal tending is suspect at best.  That is the area that Snow needs to address, solidify our position in goal...

Oh yeah,,, and who is Zimmerman???

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

Lies. I said i was happy. It's just a meaningless win and you know it.

Chris R
Chris R

@isles23 you know what, i think it has come down to that.. i'll admit to that at times...

isles23
isles23

Surprise surprise, name calling and insults. Two things you seem to do well Zee. Call people names and laugh at them, great qualities to have.

rmreturns
rmreturns

Jason Zimmerman...wrote a nice parody on " growing together, playing for each other" it's back a day or two..

I believe he misses the COLOSSAL point of why guys like JT, Hamonic, VIZ, and maybe in a few months Vanek sign long term- below market deals to remain on Long Island. It's not the recent team success, it's not the state of the art arena, it's not the below market money they accept. It's an intangible that we on the outside have no knowledge.

It's my belief it's a tight lockerroom, an esprit de corps that is created by guys who come up together, train off season together, and play together. I could quote Hamonic when he signed his deal- but then Hamonic would be branded a shill.

I'm probably just a shill, but most leadership books point to high earning employees accepting less money to remain in a positive work place. Nah, the players are fools, and want to work as hard for less money..

grand_puba
grand_puba

@Zee Executioner @CaptainT Whoever drafted him, we are very lucky to have him. Took a few years for he's maturation to progress to where it is today, but he is a slightly smaller sized version of what I can hope in my dreams that Brock Nelson turns into, which seems to be a great player.

rmreturns
rmreturns

@Zee...

The Isles won, it cost you nothing, and your day is ruined. Speaks volumes about your character, and why you troll this board.

rmreturns
rmreturns

Might be money- they are max capped and using LTIR to remain cap complaint. might be because he can no longer be sent down to Hershey without clearing waivers..

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

Wrong. I said i was happy. I am merely not ADVERTISING FALSE HOPE ON THIS BLOG.

You don't have to think so but there are MANY here whom are connected with the Islanders in some way posting here just like the tool who wrote you.

I am happy when they win but am realistic that it means little to be 26th overall, last in the division, and then lose a game in regulation to a division rival; turnaround and win the skills competition to get the extra point, then think WHOA THIS IS BIG SHYTE!!!!! when they actually lost a point in the two games to Philly. When considering they're already done, WHO CARES?!?!?!

I guess that's my point.

But feel free to breathe in the sweet smoke of the sockpuppet mob as they lure you in to another waste of a season.

isles23
isles23

@Chris. And believe me I get it to an extent. I've said many times I don't love Wang but I love the New York Islanders and that's never gonna change.

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

When i call you a sockpuppet, it's not a "name". It's what you're doing. Come clean there. Be an honest person for once. You are not posting here for fun - there is a residual reason.

isles23
isles23

Sure did, I'm just pointing out the simple fact he acts like the smartest man in the world but is always reduced to name calling and laughs at others. I think that shows who he really is.

since72
since72

@isles23 Don't waste your time.  This is why I put the comment to no one in general.  Seemed to get under his skin though.

isles23
isles23

Ty for further proving my point...

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

@rmreturns 

I get it, because I have spent a life time playing team sports.  I went to college with a baseball scholarship and failed at making it a career but spent years playing competitive softball across Long Island.  The concept of team out weighs the individual.  You bond with, and play for your team mates first, and winning makes up for anything else.  My days of playing team sports are long gone but, I do miss the camaraderie.  Based on that principle, one could hope that Vanek sees the team as more important than a few extra bucks somewhere else and takes Snow's offer... 

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

@rmreturns 

Ah,,, I see your answer but,,, the wife just got home and it's time for dinner...  I will get back to you later...

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

Sorry. I was trying to see why my other post was "pending", whether it was the address or the term circle.........jerk. I guess it was the latter.

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

I guess i've learned from the master. You being the master troll here. Go on another vacation and post for 3 hours again there. Keep astroturfing. And tell the rest of your guys there in Plainview or wherever that they're doing a bangup job. I believe Isles23-Matt needs a raise.

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

Hmmmmm. Let me see something:

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