Giants Sunday Morning Update: Parcells Enshrined

John Fennelly, Lead Writer

The Giants will practice this afternoon at 1:30pm, but please be advised the practice will closed to the public.

Yesterday, the team had a shortened workout so head coach Tom Coughlin and others could travel to Canton for Bill Bill ParcellsParcells’ induction in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Coughlin was asked what he leaned most from his old boss:

“It was just the way that he went about his business and the organization went about their business; continuity, the winning, the high expectation level put by Bill on his players and his ability to gauge right away whether it was championship quality or not and his ability to communicate that in a fluent ‘New Jerseyan’ to the players.”

Parcells, notorious for his brevity, gave a longer speech than expected. He mentioned one player in particular he’s like to be placed near in the Hall:

“The only thing I would ask them to do is when they put my bust in the Hall tomorrow, I’d like to be somewhere near Lawrence Taylor, so I can keep an eye on that sucker.”



On the injury front, OL Justin Pugh (concussion), CB Corey Webster (groin) and WR Hakeem Nicks (groin) all missed yesterday’s drills. Coughlin said Pugh was “getting better”and that he did not expect Webster and Nicks to be out much longer.

OL David Diehl said yesterday that he’s down “10 or 11 pounds” from last year and is determined to be the Giants’ RT this season. He said they’d have to ‘shoot him to get off off the field’ and had a message for the detractors who year after year continue to count him out:

“I’ve heard that since I was five years old. I could care less. I’m a fifth-round draft pick who’s started as long as I have, been in the league for 11 years, you hear that stuff all the time. I love haters, keep bringing it. I don’t care.”

GEICO SportsNite takes a look at the battle for the Giants right tackle position at training camp and comments from David Diehl.




123 comments
David Rosenthal
David Rosenthal

Strait back in again, no need to watch he will be on ice for 4/5 goals again, and continue to get playing time for battling and playing haaaahd. Guy has been on for 9/11 goals over the last two games, but he plays....we need a new coach and coaching staff.

dimaio34
dimaio34

Glad to see boulton in. Love the guy. Thinking we pull this one out tonight. It's a long season and we will be there in the end

tonelli27
tonelli27

Wonder if william and kate will grace us with an appearance next yr. They were at the nets-cavs game at the BC (they gave the B train high marks, not so much the 3 train) heard willy stopped in the bodega on 4th and pacific st to buy a pack of smokes and a lottery ticket. Lebron gave them an autographed jersey but im thinking Cleveland isnt his last stop. Word up to my hommies.

Joey Ferguson
Joey Ferguson

im too worried about jt he will come around. all im concerned about is getting back all of our Dmen. and i think Jts issues have been with alot of teams giving him a ton of coverage he will figure it out.

Andrew Tessler
Andrew Tessler

Does anyone think JT is not as good because the pressure isn't on him as much? We have secondary and a lot of depth on offense which we didn't in the past. I think he may perform better when there is more pressure on him an he has to carry the team. Tell me if I am wrong?

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

i have no idea what it is going to take for strait to sit anymore. donovan in for reinhart tonight.  boulton in for bailey....


edit: the best part is that cappy says he wants experienced guys in tonight, that is why strait is in....because his experience has helped so much. 10/10 would rather have reinhart in. 

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

not sure if its been mentioned but hammer cizikas and boychuk all skated yesterday 


scandella got two games for the hit on brock. 


halak should be good to go tonight. 

Watching the team the last two games they just looked tired in the second and third periods.  They did not seem to have the legs to keep up the pace.  As a result the other teams skated circles around them.  The mistakes they are making are mistakes that can be attributed to mental or physical exhaustion.  Since they are professional athletes and appear to be in good shape I can not think of a good reason for them to be more physically exhausted than the opponents, therefore I have to assume it is a mental exhaustion issue.  It is really up to the coaching staff to solve this problem.  Forget the injuries,  the first period of the last two games demonstrated that with the players on the ice the Islanders can be competitive with the opponents.  The same players were on the ice for the collapse of both games.  When we get the players back we will have more talent on the ice, but I do not believe that is the big issue here.  I personally think it comes down to the people behind the bench.  It is time for them to 'man up' and show they can get the team to play a full game with energy and grit, or it is time to replace them with people who can properly motivate this team to play to it's potential.  That should include winning the first round in the playoffs.  How much further depends upon how much they mature as individuals and as a team.

topshelf
topshelf

I was out with my wife and a few other couples about 3 weeks ago (the sunday after the pitt sweep). The table next too us was JT and girlfriend, Doug weight and wife and a third couple. The guys talked hockey with us the whole night. At one point JT suggested the 3 guys on his table switch seat with our wives so we could stop talking over each other. He was anything but miserable! Infact, one of the most down to earth guys you would ever meet. He is extremely competitive. I asked Doug weight if they are worried about JT getting fed up and leaving, his reply was you never know what people would do in certain situations but if he was a betting man he would call JT an Islander for life. To top off the night they picked up our tab.

gleichzal2
gleichzal2

it's funny how when realignment took place everyone was saying the islanders would be buried with such tough competition.  now people are saying the division isn't so hard.

Rich Colacino
Rich Colacino

Last 2 games have been a disaster.....it shows how badly we needed Boychuck and a healthy defense......they need to acquire another quality defenseman even when they all get healthy.

Also, as others finally see......Strait is complete garbage and needs to be released.

Also, John Tavares has been terrible all season except for the first week of the season. Granted, I am grading him against other top players. He is a ghost in these games unless they get on a powerplay. Not sure what his problem is but he is playing exactly like Yashin used to. 


So, get the defense healthy, pray JT wakes the hell up, look to add another defeneman and we should be fine. No panic.

dimaio34
dimaio34

Ok so I've been thinking about last night. It's the fact we didn't push back in the third. We just stood there. No for check nothing. And guess Johnson looks terrible. But still they had a three goal lead and never varied to make it a four goal lead. Very perplexing. But the valley is here right niw and we've been on the mountain top for most of the year. It's going to happen. We need to fix this before we can move ahead. It takes 82 games to prove you can win 16. That's what we need to do. And don't trash jt91. He's working towards a playoff spot like the rest of the team. But I will say Johnson has shocked me with his play. I say we play him the next two games. Try to get his game back. He gets 120 min. If there's no improvement. Call poulin!!!!

mrcisback
mrcisback

      I'm really surprised of how many people are down on John Tavares. Has the guy complained once even though he new he was going to one of the worst teams in the league in 2009. Has he complained once in the last 6 years about playing for the Islanders. He has more goals and points then any other player that was picked in the 2009 NHL entry draft. Did you want the Islanders to pick Victor Hedman 2nd or Matt Duchene 3rd ahead of Tavares. Tavares has more then double the amount of points then Hedman and 60 more points then Duchene. Tavares problem is he needs a scoring left winger. Does he try to be too fancy some times yes. Is he a good defensive player no. I will agree he doesn't look happy at times even though the Islanders are having a very good year. I still wouldn't change a thing if i had to do it all over again. I'm sure Snow can acquire a top scoring left winger right now but the price thats teams are probably asking for is Nelson,Strome,Reinhart,Pulock and Dal Colle. Dal Colle could be the left winger that John Tavares needs unfortunately he might be a year away.

chasct
chasct

That diving slash on JT was ridiculous and an obvious intent to injure..2 min slash is a joke for that, I guess he needs to be taken off the ice by guys to get a major.

I am waiting for JT to get pissed at blown leads and take the team on his back..which he has done in the past..

ivo
ivo

ASAP-new Goalie back up needed! 

Antti Niemi? James Reimer? Jacob Markstrom?

since72
since72

@dimaio34 Boulton is perfect for this game.  Keeps the goons honest.  Interesting that Bailey is the one who sits.  I mean i completely agree with the move but Cappy has always seemed reluctant to sit him.  I suppose out of everyone, he is the logical one to sit. 

shlo
shlo

@tonelli27 I'll be in London this weekend. I'll ask. Maybe I should get baby islanders jersey for them.

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

@Joey Ferguson not worried at all right now.  if 25 pts in 28 games is a slump then i can't wait til he really starts to get going..and it will happen

since72
since72

@slapshot18_rs Cappy must see somthing in Strait that the rest of us are missing.  I think that even Strait himself must be a bit surprised that he is in the linup.  On the other hand, Reinhart's inexperience at this level has been exposed.  A year in the AHL with spot starts in the NHL is probably right.  Let's just get Hammer and Boychuk back so these discussions can cease.

3rdname
3rdname

@slapshot18_rs


As insane as this sounds, I would rather roll 5 Dman and use a forward as the 6th instead of Strait starting. He is in the top 5 worst players I have ever seen in the NHL. I wold rather us bring back Oleg Kvasha and have him play D.

shlo
shlo

Good news

shlo
shlo

This is a long season, it's a marathon not a 100yards dash. You cannot maintain that pace for 82 games. Something has to give. I am not into stats, but someone out there likes to dig and look for them. How many cup winners took off at the beginning of the season and did not slow down? Keep a decent pace to keep you in the picture and make a final push towards the end. Save your pick performance for the playoffs.

A coach with all his assistants should know that .

mrcisback
mrcisback

@topshelf Thats very cool Topshelf. Thats the exact way i invisioned the kind of person John Tavares would be. If i could ask what was the name of the restaurant.

Ajay Gill
Ajay Gill

@topshelf JT is a local Mississauga product,  humble kid but quite the man now.  Nice to hear, sure you had a blast, hopefully you can live the same story again sometime in the next decade! 

Jim Miller
Jim Miller

@topshelf That's a real nice story, you must have been in 2nd heaven. 91 will be fine, he's the last thing Islander fans need to worry about.

gleichzal2
gleichzal2

@Rich Colacino jt is a long way from what he was two years ago when he carried them on his back.  the injury may be a part of that, mentally as well as physically.  knee injuries are cumulative and he's had two 'partial tears' (one as a youngster).

gleichzal2
gleichzal2

@dimaio34 they looked scared in the third period.  the martin hit woke up minnesota and islanders weren't up to the situation.

Don22
Don22

@mrcisback JT better start playing better of Kyle Okposo is going to demand a trade.  


Tongue firmly in cheek.  

Isleguy27
Isleguy27

@mrcisback I am curious, when people comment that John Tavares doesn't look happy, are they referring to his facial expressions? I don't know what else would draw anyone to that conclusion. My question for those people would be...how often to you see J.T. smiling? When he does interviews, he has a "poker" face. He is all business in my opinion. An earlier poster compared his play to Yashin...YASHIN!!! Tavares may not be playing his best hockey at the moment, but I would never question his heart and or desire to be a winner and a leader. The team has lost two games...yes, they blew 3 goal leads. There have been 7 games this season in which a team won the game after being down 3 goals. L.A. lost 1-0 to Buffalo the other day. It's way to early to pull the emergency switch and start to panic about the Islanders in my opinion.

shlo
shlo

@mrcisback He is not himself. He really needs to take a t/o, he has to realize he cannot do it all by himself. Once he became captain, he was off. Can't take it away from him, but I feel that Doug Weight should have a chat with him. As a former captain he should be able to point him where he needs to go.

erika
erika

@mrcisback mrc, I would not trade JT for anything! All I'm saying is that he looks miserable and is not playing anwhere near his capacity. That said, when he snaps out of it, we will be that much more dangerous! 

@shlo @tonelli27

Ask them if they are still pulling hankies out of their sleeves ala 200 years ago. 

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

Arthur Staple @StapeNewsday: Back on LI, Hamonic, Boychuk, and Cizikas all skated today. #Isles

tag1
tag1

@shlo Howie asked Butch around 2 weeks or so ago if the Isles can maintain this pace game in and game out and play this style all season without getting fatigued and Butch said it was up to the coaching staff to monitor the team and make sure they are not getting fatigued. 2 games does not make a pattern yet but the last 2 games the Isles had a very good first period and followed that up with 2 lackluster periods in which they were outplayed by a wide margin. Without a doubt the injuries are taking their toll because unlike last season this season the team was rolling along before the injury bug hit so this season I think it's a legitimate excuse.


It's nice that the Isles gave themselves a little cushion this season where they can have a bad stretch of games and not fall out of the playoff race like they did in the past. If they can hang in there until their injured d men come back it could turn into a positive that 2 of your most physical d men had some time off during the season and should be go to go for the playoffs.

topshelf
topshelf

@mrcisback STK in the city. Very good steakhouse.

dimaio34
dimaio34

Yeah they did look scared. But why minny is not intimidating. At all. Can't figure our why they never went for the throat

mrcisback
mrcisback

@Isleguy27 @mrcisback Isleguy could you imagine if the Islanders would have picked Hedman or Duchene at number 1 instead of Tavares. We would then be looking at Steven Stamkos and John Tavares on the same line for the next 15 years breaking all types of NHL records. If you thought passing on Zack Parise was bad could you imagine the out rage with Snow not picking Tavares #1. Snow would have to hire a body guard.

gleichzal2
gleichzal2

@Isleguy27 @mrcisback seven games this season with three-goal comebacks, islanders have let it happen to them twice in a row.  not a nice factoid.

rmbbanned2
rmbbanned2

@Isleguy27 team is 19-9, and the Captain-JT is at almost a point a game pace.. 

The standards some folks are placing on him, the expectations- are inane..

shlo
shlo

@tag1 @shlo Did not hear the comment from Butch, but it was discussed few times by various commentators.

Last year Butch said that during the summer a player needs to rest for his body to get ready for the next season. There is that much a body can take. He did not like the fact that many players keep training during the summer. Not just plain skating but heavy duty training. it leaves them open for injuries.

@dimaio34

That my friend IS on the coaching staff

Isleguy27
Isleguy27

@rmbbanned2 @Isleguy27 I can only imagine the beating that E. Kane would be taking if he were an Islander. He's got 4 goals this season, and at least one of them was an empty net goal. Not sure if anyone saw his latest photo of himself doing push-ups with a load of money on his back. He is taking a fair bit of criticism on some of the local radio programs up here in Northern Canada. J.T. is fine...everyone will see.

rmbbanned2
rmbbanned2

@shlo You have to win games, but manage your roster for the 82 games, and hopefully a few more after that.. Every fan treats each game like it is life or death. 

It isn't, and coaches can't go to that "well" every night.


Saint Al decided to win a few less during the regular season, so the guys had something left for the playoffs.. We all know how that turned out..