Giants-Redskins: League issues statement noting officiating error

Are you wondering what really happened at the end of last night’s game between the Giants and Redskins? You’re not alone. The officiating crew simply screwed up, leaving the Redskins, the Giants, the fans and the viewing audience scratching their heads.

The series in question….


1-10-WAS 36 (2:10) (Shotgun) R.Griffin pass short left to P.Garcon to WAS 41 for 5 yards.
Two-Minute Warning
2-5-WAS 41 (2:00) (Shotgun) R.Griffin pass short middle to P.Garcon to WAS 45 for 4 yards.

It is here one official tells the Redskins bench that it’s a first down. They call their next play based on that information.

3-1-WAS 45 (1:37) (No Huddle, Shotgun) R.Griffin pass incomplete deep middle to F.Davis.
4-1-WAS 45 (1:29) R.Griffin pass short right to P.Garcon to NYG 49 for 6 yards. FUMBLES, RECOVERED by NYG-W.Hill at NYG 49. W.Hill to WAS 43 for 8 yards.

Redskins head coach Mike Shanahan said this after the game…

The NFL has issued a statement noting the error by the officials.

From the AP:

The NFL says Sunday night’s officiating crew should have stopped play and eliminated confusion about the down and distance at the end of the New York Giants’ 24-17 victory at Washington.

A 4-yard completion to the Redskins’ Pierre Garcon was spotted short of a first down. Referee Jeff Triplette signaled third down. But the head linesman, with Washington in a hurry-up offense, incorrectly motioned for the crew to advance the chains, which caused the down boxes to read first down.

League officiating director Dean Blandino said Monday in a statement that “in this situation where there is obvious confusion as to the status of the down, play should have been stopped prior to third down and the correct down communicated to both clubs. This should have occurred regardless of the fact that Washington had no timeouts and it was inside two minutes.”




102 comments
kidrobot
kidrobot

Just heard Brian Windhurst on the Mike Lupica show. He brought up the best tandem moving forward (regardless of team) will be Kevin Love and LeBron.  He believes Love is a better, younger version of Bosh.  Very interesting................he seems to think LeBron is opting in and will be a free agent in 2015

Seth Plaut
Seth Plaut

Naaaaannnaaaaa....Naaaaaaaannaaaaaaa.....Heyyyyyyy........Goodbye Woodson!

onewhoknix
onewhoknix

Tyson Chandler was quoted after the game saying "I guess too many teams were so afraid of seeing us in the playoffs that they kept beating us to keep us out."


Jokes only. These last few games are meaningless and this blog is going to be strictly he said, she said quotes from now on so I wont be so frequent. Everyone on the team deserves some blame but look forward to the future Knicks fans. We still the best on earth.

hashburry
hashburry

Put this season to bed.  Who cares if Denver gets a lottery pick.  I assume Jackson will see through the absurd number of 3s JR is taking and get rid of all these guys in the next 2 years.  I can't watch this team.  All they do is lose and talk.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

Hollinger Playoff Odds for us are now down to 2.3%. Hawks magic number is 3.

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

Phil Jackson said he has a plan. He went on the radio and said he didn't and wouldn't just jump into this without one. This is going to be one interesting off season just with Melo alone. I wonder what kind of moves Phil will make, if any. Probably some under the radar/low-key players.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

This team not only has terribly underachieved, but has been the biggest disappointment in the entire league.

Just a pathetic season all around.

A badly coached team. A very unprofessional and uncommitted roster. They've done jack sh!t all season long and just to save face on this disgusting season they decided to play with 20.

Most of us knew the playoffs was a lost cause long ago. Most of us knew Woodson should've been fired in December. I've seen a professional take such a huge step backward...


At least Phil marks the beginning of a new era. Hopefully a positive. 

johneco
johneco

Making the playoffs is always a big deal, and not just for sentimental reasons.  It could have improved the values of some of our players, almost all of whom have rock bottom valuations right now.  That would have made Phil's job easier.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall for the exit interviews, I think it could get pretty ugly.  Let's see if they go public.  

It's going to be a long offseason, with no picks and no tradeable assets.  I'm trying to get myself pumped for the kind of undrafted players that will be available to us, like DeAndre Kane.  Hopefully we can buy a pick... 

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

I can't wait to see what this team looks like next season when we have an intelligent coaching staff. I'm excited about that prospect. 

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@Jaime  At this point I don't think it matters anymore if we get. We still have bald master flex at the helm. He would ruin it for us anyway.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@SheSaidSpikeWho  Love LB but he should mind his business and stop it with the bitter criticism. He doesn't know how Phil intends to work this and what it entails.

L
L

@OLDKNICK I agree with you. At the end of the day I truly dislike the CBA agreement in basketball. You get stuck with players. Years ago when we traded for Camby we were only able to do so because plAyers were not forced to stay with teams. When I look around the league and see a player like Anthony Davis it reminds me of the Camby situation because there is no way he would stay with the Pelicans if nj ot forced to do so.  

 i am definitely looking forward to Phil Jackson installing a system and try to win that way. Because signing free agents is very risky. Because if they get hurt then u stink for the remainder of the contract.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@OLDKNICK  We are not just spectators. We are the ones making these guys rich. We deserve a better product!

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@kneggyknik  Would you want to play for Woodson? They probably just want the season to be over anyway.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Pevi Levi  With the non stop switching...AB and Amare (two of the worst defending bigs in the league) would be stuck on the perimeter 48 minutes a game.

The results would've been the same, perhaps even worse.

When Amare's not scoring efficiently he's a detriment to the team. So was AB.

1harris1
1harris1

Still though, the Hawks have home games against Boston and Detroit, and a road game against Milwaukee. They win those games against those awful teams and they're in, regardless of what we do. Which one of those games are the Hawks going to lose?

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Pevi Levi Add some blank lines or make various paragraphs playa!  It makes it easier to read! 

Lord I'm turning into my English professor!   I'm projecting!

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@SheSaidSpikeWho Yep, that would make sense to me. Why would Phil come here and risk his reputation some when he shouldn't need the money......unless he thinks he has a plan! 

That is why it was so telling that he took the job without any assurances or even a discussion with Melo beforehand.  I do not see Melo being here as an essential part to Phil's plan!  

Without Melo,Phil can bring in his players and not have to worry about trying to transform Melo at max money or near.

rico
rico

@kneggyknik  most bad-apples are virtually untraceable.   Might have to suffer through this for another season. With or without Melo.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@kneggyknik  Phil has mentioned Shump, Chandler & Melo. I haven't heard him say anything about any of the other players.

rico
rico

@VerySilentJay  I'm with you up until "Most of us knew the playoffs was a lost cause long ago".  Generally when good teams under-achieve so acutely they rebound and go on a tear, even over-achieve. Aside from some "brush-fire"eany-beany winning streaks the Knicks have under-achieved the whole way.  


Much more fun watching an underachieving team over-achieve than what we saw.  What a waist of time, emotion and fandom (on our part) 



kidrobot
kidrobot

@OLDKNICK I completely agree.  Carmelo's window is closing- especially as a primary - I really believe it was this year.  I have a feeling that Phil Jackson is going to say all the right things right now, but basically force Melo out- by prioritizing a similar player in Love.  Melo will have to "waste" another year next year and wait for someone to come in as a #1.  If LeBeron opts in, could this be his plan?  LeBron and Love.  Miami will have the ability to do the same thing, but I honestly believe LeBron wants NY under the right circumstance- it would only cement his legacy as top 3- potential GOAT if he was to bring a title to NYC.  If he leaves Miami, he escapes the "this will always be Wades team"... He can walk into a team that he would be the defacto #1 no questions asked.  You can't get that in South Beach

hashburry
hashburry

@Pevi Levi @hashburry  Are you actually saying you'd rather Orlando, who actually plays in the Eastern Conference gets the pick?  That is idiotic.  And again, who cares?  The Knicks don't have it, so why all the angst over the other team getting lottery picks?  Someone has to get it.  The bottom line is this Knicks team is dreadful and a long way from being competitive.

johneco
johneco

@rico @kneggyknik Noone is untradeable.  Even Gilbert Arenas got traded - his contract at the time was way worse than any we have.  The question is what do you get back.  Basically you can always trade your problem contract for someone else's problem contract.  I hope we can do that without losing our 2015 flexibility.  I'm sure Phil has Mills looking at every problem player in the NBA on a 1-yr expiring.


In Phil we trust...


knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@rico @kneggyknik  I doubt it. Phil loves winning too much. He said he was on a "talent search" and I think he meant it.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@rico @VerySilentJay  At no point, in this entire ball of sh!t some call season, did I ever see this team play with consistent hustle or heart. 

The blame falls as much on the players as it does on this horrific excuse we have of a coach.

Had he been able to inject some life in his players, maybe, just maybe, this team could be in the post season.

If this group had an ounce of character and pride they would've put in the work ever since the beginning of the season, and we'd likely be in the post season.

Despite what many here think, this is a playoff team, they've just massively underachieved in every sense of the word.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@thatsagoodpoint @FIREBALDY  Melo said "he is open to changes" which is a great thing. Most stars are hard headed a-holes. Phil will work with his head and I think a different Melo is going to emerge. A more vocal and less emotionally sensitive player---less self-conscious. 

Sports being 85% or something like that mental...

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@xmenreturn @FIREBALDY  Ofcourse I am anxious for 2015 but I want to be able to see what this season could have been with competent coaching.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@OLDKNICK @FIREBALDY  You won't answer. I guess I have to assume you just don't want to admit you're wrong on this one. That's fine.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@Pevi Levi @kneggyknik @FIREBALDY  Here's the thing. I think Phil was originally going to come in after the season but with the protesting and threats being hurled at Dolan he asked him to come in early. So Phil decided to be patient and just give this season up so to speak.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Pevi Levi @VerySilentJay  Tyler's hustle went unseen because of his lapses defensively. That's why Aldrich got more minutes whenever Amare wasn't available.

And AB would've spread the floor had he been able to hit the 3, which he didn't do efficiently enough.

Neither he or Amare can actually rebound like PF/C's or defend man to man.

Chandler had an awful season, but he can still do that 1000000x better than those other 2 combined.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@thatsagoodpoint Yeah they taught Biggie how to google in school so he's like getting off on questioning why everyone doesn't have the each salary figures instantly.  

As though that's the hear to the argument!  Somehow numbers don't matter to him when we get nowhere near the 55+ wins this year he predicted of the pt avg AB would do this year being our #2 option.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Pevi LeviYep I agree.  However, this offseason will be quite telling and interesting. How the Melo drama plays out will give us a better take on Phil's real direction for this team. 

johneco
johneco

@thatsagoodpoint @johneco You don't know Toronto couldn't give him away.  Maybe there were multiple suitors willing to trade their crap straight up for him, but we were the only ones to sweeten the deal with the idiotic #1.  He's an attractive reclamation project IMO, because if he improves a GM can come out looking like a genius.   

johneco
johneco

@thatsagoodpoint @johneco@Biggie I disagree.  I think almost all teams will trade away their headache for someone else's headache, if there's no additional salary.  It's a free roll of the dice. 

I'm not saying Bargnani is popular, but he used to be when he went #1, someone might do it if there was no risk.

johneco
johneco

@thatsagoodpoint @Biggie Moves can happen.  All we need is to e.g. find someone on a 1-year contract making 10M that their team hates and wants to move.  Then we trade them Bargnani, Phil rehabilitates the new guy, and presto lol.

johneco
johneco

@thatsagoodpoint @FIREBALDY@rico@kneggyknik C'mon man, be a little realistic (you normally are).

He's going to give up 23M guaranteed for next year, plus whatever else he'd make the following years, for 12M guaranteed?  Nothing like that has ever happened in the history of the NBA...

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@FIREBALDY - Melo hasn't won anything in 10 seasons!  Phil couldn't make Kobe a winner without major help and Kobe is much smarter and a much better closer than Melo.

Kobe is about the closest thing we have seen to MJ.

I do not see Phil thinking he can change Melo at age 30 to get a ring. 

I like Phil but Phil has never worked with a team without bonafide smart superstars. Now he has a team without any!     That says rebuild to me.              

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@xmenreturn @FIREBALDY  Biggie is annoying and he likes to push buttons but if he honestly wanted to change he could too. 

This is Melo's first losing season. He has what he needs in Phil (something he's never had) a true mentor.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@FIREBALDY @xmenreturnI hear ya but even if you'll willing that does not mean you will be effective to do it at that level.  

Imagined Biggie saying he wants to work on being smart? 

We all know he'll still be riding the short bus despite his efforts! 

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@xmenreturn  Habits can be changed if you're willing to change. Melo is willing. Mark my words X you will see a different player next season.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@FIREBALDY @xmenreturnI watched Mrelo for 10 years play and it's no fluke on what he is.  Playing organized ball in high school and college, you see talented people all the time and you wonder why they never go as far as they should.  At least I used to until I figured many of them don't have the mental makeup, discipline to work on improving the things they don't like doing.  Even when they do, there are always someone that may do it better than you.

That's the thing with a sport like b-ball, it's not golf, you have an opposing player(s) that is trying to stop you from doing what you like to do best. Who can do it better is the issue.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@xmenreturn @FIREBALDY  You underestimate Melo. A lot of people do. You have to analyze him out of the box to understand where he is coming from.

Biggie has a personality disorder. Narcissism with latent inferiority complex issues.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@FIREBALDY Ok. Try digging into Biggies' Helmet and tell us why he does things and then help him out! 

Phil is not God!  He always had totally great smart players to work with. 

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@xmenreturn @FIREBALDY @thatsagoodpoint  If you dig into a person's psyche and find out why they do things then you can help them change the behavior. That is one of Phil's specialties---he picks brains and alters ways of thinking.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@FIREBALDY @thatsagoodpointYep and Mental is not Melo's strong suit.  I doubt even Phil could turn Melo into a very good decision maker on the court after 10 years in the NBA.

Melo is 30 now and it would be a major risk for Phil to think he can no only turn this dude around but make him the centerpiece to build around.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@xmenreturn @FIREBALDY  He's not dumb. With great coaching and Phil working with his psyche he'll be fine. He did well in the Olympics with Coach K.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@FIREBALDY I hear ya but I doubt if Melo could stop making bad decisions just like that. Hr probably doesn't even realize he's making them.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@thatsagoodpoint @xmenreturn  I used to be addicted to candy. I realized my family history was not favorable to candy (Diabetes). So I just stopped cold turkey. 

With enough motivation anyone can change.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@thatsagoodpoint YEP I agree!  IMO Both of these guys are good endpoints.  They can't be expected to make good decisions with the ball and etc consistently. It's just not in their nature. 

They like to shoot the rock!  

It's like putting a cake in a fat kids hands and expect him to share it with others wisely. Aint gonna happen! You'll just have some starving pissed off kids! 

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@xmenreturn @FIREBALDY  I respectfully disagree. He takes everything onto himself. All of the responsibility on his shoulders---probably why he has shoulder issues (mind/body science).

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@FIREBALDY   Yesterday Melo came out of a timeout with ~13 secs on the clock at the end of the 3rd qtr, what did he do?

 He didn't pass to anybody.  Instead of making sure we had the last possession, he shot the ball right way and that allowed for LBJ to go on the other end and get a 3 pt play.  Melo didn't even get back on defense.

i'm been trying to tell people for years that Melo is a scorer first and foremost. Yes, he can rebound and play some defense when he wants to.  But Melo is not a smart player at least not on the same level as some of the great players.  That's just not his thing!  He's an endpoint at best and not a starting point or facilitator period.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@thatsagoodpoint A to the Men.!  My sentiments EXACTLY! 

JR and MELO are some really talented dudes.  However both cannot be relied on to make good decisions over the course of a game (or season ) especially even in the clutch.  

Some people just have it and some do not. Everything is relative and at that level, it a huge part what separates the good from the great.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@FIREBALDY @xmenreturnNice. But how can get by rooting for Jets and Giants?

I can't root for the Giants and Yankees! I don't like winners evidently.


knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@xmenreturn @FIREBALDY  You got that right and it aint worth a stroke that's for sure. These players make millions of $$$ we don't have to worry about them. We have to think of our own sanity.

BTW I'm a Knicks, Jets, Giants, Yankees fan so I don't have it easy either. When the Jets/Giants play I root for the Jets.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@FIREBALDY @xmenreturnJust try to look at life in an upbeat manner. When you're Knicks,Jets and Mets fan, you better have a sense of humor or you're dead literally!  lol

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@FIREBALDY @xmenreturnI hear ya but the roster is going to change big time imo and maybe not necessarily better for next year.  

We surely could use a system and better coaching no matter what players we have. However, I think we need to be patient to allow Phil to methodically put together a better core of players