Friday Morning Hits: American Dream, Da’Rel Scott

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Before you know it, we’ll be starting training camp. Players are due to report exactly two weeks from today on the 26th. The first workout is scheduled for the next day. The full training camp schedule along with guidelines for public access should be released soon.

Quick hits…

Gina Scala of New Jersey Newsroom puts her two cents in regarding the lawsuit filed by the developers of American Dream against the Giant and Jets…

The developers are accusing the NFL franchises of “greed” in protecting “their lucrative monopoly” on the Sports Complex. Hmmm…not for nothing Triple Five, but jealousy is an ugly thing.

As a born and bred Jersey Girl who loves to shop as much as I love my football, you couldn’t pay me enough to EVER step foot in American Dream Meadowlands. It has nothing to do with the traffic nightmares it will cause in the part of the state; nor the sheer enormity of the complex, which would require multiple visits to see and do everything (if that is even possible); nor the cognitive overload of sights; smells and sounds.

It’s because Triple Five are a bunch of hypocrites. They call the Giants and Jets greedy; yet they are building in an area that has three malls within 10 miles. Have they stopped to consider what impact American Dream Meadowlands will have on those other communities?

Michael Eisen of Giants.com outlined the prospects of third-year RB Da’rel Scott this week in his mailbag. Scott, a seventh-round selection in 2011, has yet to stay healthy enough to have his role(s) on the offense and special teams expanded…

Scott certainly did impress during the preseason of his rookie season (2011) where he ran for a long touchdown against the Bears and blocked a punt but I’m not sure how well Scott played in the 2012 preseason; he rushed for 55 yards on 17 carries, a 3.2-yard average. Granted, he usually ran behind the second or third-string line, but he also played against defenders who likely didn’t make an NFL roster.

Scott has fully recovered from his knee injury and will get an opportunity to show what he can do in training camp – his third with the team. But I see him getting relatively few opportunities to carry the ball once the season begins because David Wilson and Andre Brown are ahead of him on the depth chart. However, if he makes the most of those opporunities, you could see a three-headed attack like the team had in 2008 with Brandon Jacobs, Ahmad Bradshaw and Derrick Ward. If there is one thing you should know about the Giants, the team believes you can never have too many RB’s especially ones who have homerun speed like Scott.




57 comments

If we ever need a goalie we can grab Joe Barrett for a couple of games.. maybe sign him to a minor league contract..  not only is the kid a dangler he can strap the pads on and play between the pipes..  All around stud


I love the fact that ho-sang celebrated the way he did...  kid blows by 2 guys like they were standing still gets in close and roofs a back hander.. sick... i would have stopped got the puck and flipped it to the goalie to hand to the ref..  great cele....  i learned that one from a guy by the name of joe barrett.. kid is a legend in the over 30 league at ice works...

Saw a game at ice works the other night.  Kid by the name of Joe Barrett.  Great skater hard right handed shot..   kids got slow hands when it comes to the fisticuffs... Had is lunch fed to him that game...  Got alot to learn

doc942
doc942

Big deal... the kid does a dance after scoring a beautiful goal on an end to end rush.  Great job Josh Ho-Sang.

Joba used to do a single fist pump and it would be written about for days and callers on talk shows would cry about what a show off he was... meanwhile across town - Frankie Rodriquez would do a dance on the mound, point to the sky, tip his cap, scream and do a few ballerina steps and nobody says a word.  The guy from Tampa Bay would shoot imaginary arrows at an imaginary target in the sky... no one says boo, Joba does a single fist pump and he's called arrogant.  Seems like Ho-Sang is getting the same treatment.

Steven Cook
Steven Cook

When did everyone in this world become so sensitive? I have seen many players with over the top celebrations.  Not a big deal. 

Logan Monstuart
Logan Monstuart

Paraphrasing a line from Stripes: Sergeant (Warren Oates?) to hot-headed recruit: "Easy there, Jones. One of these guys just might save your life one day." To which Bill Murray utters under his breath to Harold Ramis: "Then again, maybe we won't."

Point: real bad idea to alienate two groups: fellow soldiers, and teammates.

delo
delo

Great goal, worth celebrating!

trots1
trots1

why is mark strait haging as captain from the side of iceworks?

trots1
trots1

thats nothing..Joe Barrett went end to end last night at iceworks,, scored a goal one handed while drinking a 25oz bud light in the other. crazy shot... top shelf!!!! goalie had no chance !!!   sign Joe B now!!!!!

isles23
isles23

I am all for guys acting professional but we have to remember they are playing a game. It is OK to have some fun. As long as it doesn't show anyone up or take it too far I'm all for a player enjoying the fact he is playing a kids game

Billy Thoesen
Billy Thoesen

Howcome our other young prospects score with dignity & dont pull this NBA stuff ? Son, you have a lot to learn

shlo
shlo

I really don't understand why you are making such a big deal of the celebration. He was excited, it was a beauty. 

I have seen celebrations from NHL players, not kids in Juniors, which were more "offensive".

Jager and his salutes, Yashin banging on his chest like a gorilla and pointing at himself as saying I deflected it...

another player I forgot who skating with the stick between his legs like a witch on a broom and many others jumping, pumping fists you name.

When the time comes and he starts scoring goals for us, you'll appreciate his talent.

Bill Zwerlein
Bill Zwerlein

Yeah... And watch our other guys get hurt fighting while defending him after his 'celebrations'.

cournoyer
cournoyer

Reminds  me of  P. Kane.  I'll take chip on shoulder something to prove over retreat to shell(Bailey) anyday

gottem13x
gottem13x

Everyone needs to relax, the kids 18

WestCoastFan
WestCoastFan

Disgraceful. Christian, you have no clue.

tonelli27
tonelli27

Memo to josh ho sang: when u get to the islanders hang out with travis hamonic and see what class is all about. Class and humility and dedication to others. No.3 in the dressing room/no1 as a person.

tonelli27
tonelli27

Ho sang is a tremendous talent but knock that shyte off going forward. Do something positive like wave to a kid in the crowd, acknowledge a service member/first responder sitting in the stands etc. Its not about u kid u got alot of skill don't think someone on the other team wont hand U your head. Great goal anyway.

truth77
truth77

@mrcisback I think I read its a tumor in the Thyroid He is going in for surgery for it .That found it on a routine test.

truth77
truth77

Good luck Ollie Matta in youre fight with Cancer.Hope to see you on the ice soon.Health and Family all that matters.

Isleguy27
Isleguy27

Nice end to end rush by Ho-Sang with great speed. The only thing I don't like about the celebration is the fact that he skates away from his teammates. It's all about him. He'll learn in time...

mrcisback
mrcisback

      He looks like a very good prospect and if he makes it to the NHL i'd imagine he'd have to curtail those type of goal celebrations. On another positive note it looks like Garth Snow is going to make every effort to sign Johnny Boychuk to a long term contract. I hope so i really don't want to lose him at the trade deadline. I think Snow did an excellent job in trading for Leddy and Boychuk. He said the teams were asking for the Islanders top young players and prospects but he refused to give them up. I guess Strome,Nelson,Lee and prospects Pulock,Reinhart,Dal Colle and Ho-sang. Its hard to believe we obtained both Leddy and Boychuk and didn't give up 1 of those top prospects. I think Snow made a nice come back from a very questionable move for an UFA Vanek.

hoverlow
hoverlow

Nice goal. Ghetto punk celebration. Personally I would love to see him score like that in an islander uniform, then pull that kind of celebration in front of the other teams bench, then get crushed by a peer on the other team.

rmbbanned
rmbbanned

Wow- score like that in the NHL and you make lead highlite on sportscenter time and time again.

The rest you will figure out before you make the NHL.

Donald Yacona
Donald Yacona

He's gonna get destroyed if he try's that in the show

dkdk
dkdk

Great goal.... Celebrate like that in the NHL and you will be put on the balls of your azz time and time again.

@trots1 cant believe they havent painted over it

@trots1 i was at that game watching in the stands.... epic goal.... kid has a future in this league

phishstyx1
phishstyx1

@shlo  God I couldn't stand that big nothing Yashin, What a selfish lazy one dimensional player. His team mates hated him

Isleguy27
Isleguy27

As Orange explained to me, those people don't represent the league. Don't you know. (A hint of sarcasm in my tone)

elephant
elephant

I think he will tone it down a bit when he's a boy among men

mrcisback
mrcisback

@truth77 I'm sorry to hear that Truth. I didn't know it was cancer. That kid looks like he's going to be a star. Hopefully everything works out fine for him.

elephant
elephant

@Islesguy27 Couldn't agree more. I think that's a bigger problem with the celebration.

dkdk
dkdk

MrC .... Completely agree

elephant
elephant

@hoverlow So you would like to see an Islander get "crushed" by an opposing player? I think there are better ways for him to learn to be more respectful.

Also... If he skates from end to end and blows by an entire team, he deserves to show off a little.

rmbbanned
rmbbanned

@hover- I don't think he will celebrate like that in the NHL if he should reach this level. I do think he was celebrating like a teenager who scored an amazing goal.

Teenagers act like teenagers because they are teenagers.

Enjoy his talent, enjoy that he is a prospect for the Isles.

dkdk
dkdk

That is how it works in the NHL.

dzruggie
dzruggie

@rmbbanned For sure though in the NHL he better be in the clear if he crosses into the slot with that much speed.  Nice hands 

John Dunphy
John Dunphy

Oh my God......SHUT THE HELL UP ALREADY. As if Ho-Sang is the first player to have an over-the-top goal celebration. He scored a super impressive goal and had a funny celebration, how about you comment on that and not include something negative in every single thing that you post. Jesus Christ. You and all your super cool "buddies" make this site so freaking annoying.

@Isleguy27 you know who dosent respect the over 30 league at ice works..... JOE BARRETT

tonelli27
tonelli27

@islesguy27 u know on occasions i can have a pretty spirited debate with @rm and sometimes it degenerates into silliness on both of our parts. But with u its all fool all the time, not that i mind since a slight from u is a compliment and when i consider the source i often think of the bumbling burglars in the classic"HOME ALONE"! Im still not sure if you're joe pesci's character or daniel stern's. Netflix will give me that answer.

tonelli27
tonelli27

@islesguy27 hint of stupidity in your posts. Keep it up its all u.

rmbbanned
rmbbanned

@DZ- yep. He is fast and has hands. Long way to go concerning him, but building blocks are pretty obvious.

That you Canada national hockey media....

tpjm
tpjm

@John Dunphy Exactly. The same bunch of Debby Downers always ruin everything. NYI is 6-2 and some still complain. If they go .500 on a rough trip against good teams the Wang/Snow/Cap haters will be out whining 24/7 again. The kid scored a great goal, I've seen Ovi celebrate similar. Ho-Sang will look great in BROOKLYN. You'll have to excuse these LOSERS, they've been butthurt for so long they can't ever be happy. They're super fools not super cool. Preach on my man.

dkdk
dkdk

Lol .... This isn't the NBA .... The NHL self polices over the top celebrations. The Shea Webers of the world see to it.

Aside from wang I am very positive. And I also don't take The Lords name in vain.

isles23
isles23

Dk. Maybe that's part of the reason the NBA is a more popular league. Some character wouldn't kill the NHL

Isleguy27
Isleguy27

@dkdk Who policed Ovechkin when he lay his stick on the ice and pretended not to touch it as it was too hot? When Selanne scored 70 goals did you see him throw his glove in the air and shoot at it with his stick? Did someone get in his face about that? Sean Avery doing pushups, Alexei Kovalev moon walking, Marek Malik after his nifty penalty shot, Milan Hedjuk swimming on the ice,

tonelli27
tonelli27

@islesguy27 those guys u mentioned do not represent the nhl as a whole. Avery was always thought of as a punk, Kovalev had issues with maturity, malik is out of the league. The nhl does not want that not by law but by tradition. Ho sang needs to grow up soon, hes a tremendous talent he and or his coaches need to nip it in the bud.

dkdk
dkdk

You brought it up so I responded. I am a big fan of your family's work on Modern Family.

And those over the top celebrations not only put the spotlight on the one that does it but also to star teammates. Someone gets fed up wAtching may decide to take a run at JT. Like the next batter getting plunked after a guy takes 25 seconds slowly meandering around the bases after a dinger.

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

@tonelli27 ho sang does not represent the nhl as a whole, either.


i totally get the idea of not wanting to celebrate in your teammates faces out of respect etc. but the fact is that celebration was not that big of a deal. i can name several, way worse, off the top of my head, in the NHL, and recently.  shooting at the goalie with your stick after you score on him as to be a bit more disrespectful, no? 


i see the concern, but i think some people are over reacting to this specific celebration. 

John Dunphy
John Dunphy

People take runs at JT now and Ho-Sang isn't even on the team...

JT is our superstar and best player, people are going to take runs at him regardless of other players' celebrations. Just like they take runs at every other superstar in the league.

tonelli27
tonelli27

@slapshot i didn't say he did! Please read the post and stop reflexively answering.